Are you struggling with taking anti-pathogens or detoxing? Maybe you’re finding it a challenge to take anti-pathogens because it causes more negative symptoms?
Today I want to talk to you about “binders” and how, when added to your protocols, they can assist with the negative symptoms of detoxing (or “die-off” symptoms).
But first, let’s start with anti-pathogens…
Anti-pathogens
Many of Jini’s protocols, most notably Jini’s Wild Oil of Oregano Protocol, consist of consuming some sort of anti-pathogen to help sweep out the bad bacteria in the gut. Wild oregano oil, olive leaf, garlic – all of these are considered anti-pathogens.
Before beginning an anti-pathogen treatment, I recommend reading my blog: Anti-Pathogen Treatment: The Fundamental Way to Heal Your Gut! There you will learn everything you need to know beforehand to better prepare yourself and your body.
I also received a great question from a reader in response to the above anti-pathogen post, and you can find both the question and my answer here: Can I Start an Anti-Pathogen Treatment During a Crohns/Colitis Flare?
Mycotoxins
Here’s the part many people don’t realize. When we consume antipathogens, they kill the “bad guys” – as I like to call them. However, during this process mycotoxins are released as the bad pathogens are dying. It’s almost as if it’s their last effort to hold onto staying in our body! And although we don’t want to be plagued by this bacteria, our bodies are used to it, the microbiome is used to it…so any change causes a bit of chaos.
As these toxins are being released, you may feel sick. I would get extremely sick after I took anti-pathogens, which is why I am sharing a little trick with you today. 🙂
But first, let me explain binders…
Binders
To avoid a HERX reaction, which is the flu-like symptoms or sickness we can feel after taking antipathogens, we need BINDERS.
Binders do exactly what they sound like – they bind things together and pull them out! Especially when reacting, a binder is usually what we need because it’s a signal to us that we aren’t detoxing the anti-pathogens properly. As the bacteria are dying, we need to get them out. We don’t want them to stay in our bodies, wreaking havoc!
How binders work is they grab and pull, creating a vacuum-type detox. It’s fantastic because it’s safe for IBD patients, so while bad stuff is being killed in your system, the binder goes in grabs it, and pulls it out! Thus relieving you of the Herx reaction symptoms and sickness.
Binder Options
Now that we know what binders do, I have a list below with the names of a few different binder options and then you can choose which one is best for you! Just find which one your body needs and do your own research and consult a professional to see which one suits you best!
- Bentonite clay (can be used on its own or in combination with other ingredients, see below)
- Activated Charcoal or Charcoal
- GI DETOX (A powerful, strong combination binder, for some, has been very helpful. Please consult a professional before use of this binder for your specific condition)
- Sun Chlorella (this is usually considered a light binder for most people, Jini’s MultiAbsorb Immune product has Chlorella in it)
- Chlorophyll (similar to Sun Chlorella this has been known to help detox the body, so could potentially help purge the toxins out)
- Sprouted chia or flaxseed (This can be taken on its own or in the BCPH shake, see below, either way, it must ALWAYS be taken with lots of water to avoid constipation)
BCPH
This stands for Bentonite Clay and Psyllium seed husks. These are two widely available binders that work well separately, or together. They combine and create that “vacuum” I mentioned above. Substances like clay, acacia, chia or charcoal bind the bad things together and work to remove them, and the soluble fiber helps to push them out, without irritating the gut. You may have more bowel movements while you are detoxing, but the other negative symptoms associated with Herx usually start to subside. These would be things like headaches, fevers, flu-like symptoms, joint and muscle pain, sore throat, chills, etc.
Thank goodness for Binders! They were life-saving for me, and I hope they are for you as well! Jini has recently formulated an awesome binder for Imix Nutrition called ColonEaze – she’s formulated one version for people who tend towards diarrhea and another for people who tend towards constipation. It’s not available yet, but rest assured we’ll post as soon as it is! ColonEaze consists of Jini’s ideal blend of the substances mentioned here, along with targeted herbs. For those of you who’ve been around for a decade or more, you’ll remember a product called MetaCleanse – this is Jini’s version of that product (they had their factory destroyed in a fire and never rebuilt).
So, here is the trick I promised to share with you: below are the directions on how to make a BCPH shake.
How to Mix a BCPH Shake:
* Note: These are just recommendations, so make sure you use these according to YOUR body. Use this as an outline to see what works for you, and always start “low and slow.” This means start with a small amount, then work your way up according to your own body’s needs.
Water: 10-20 oz at least of water. If not all at once, drink some with the shake and the rest right after.
NOTE: You NEED water for this treatment to work successfully, push out, and flush out properly. Otherwise, it can get stuck in your GI tract, as these products are binders and need liquid to pull out!
- Start with water as your base in a glass. Glass is best for your cup vs. plastic, and starting with water as the base is best because the products won’t get clumped in the bottom.
- Take 1-2 teaspoons of bentonite clay and dump it into your glass. Charcoal can also work well, but start small and increase from there based on what your body needs.
- Take 1 teaspoon of the soluble fiber of choice. Widely available options are psyllium husk, psyllium seed, chia seed, or flaxseed, but start small with the dosage and increase as you see what your body needs. Since I was so sensitive, I only used ½ a teaspoon of psyllium seed* when I began – and that for me was just fine.
- Shake or stir and drink immediately so it doesn’t clump or build up!
Jini recommends you use psyllium seed, rather than just the husk, although a blend of the two (more seed than husk) can also work well.
NOTE: 1.84% of women over age 60 have heart palpitations caused by psyllium. Either due to an allergic reaction or due to psyllium slowing down the digestion/absorption of carbohydrates, thus resulting in low blood sugar and increased heart rate.
And remember, it’s important to supplement with a potent probiotic when using both binders and anti-pathogens, as they not only sweep away the bad bacteria but ALL bacteria – including the good guys. You want to replenish all bacteria lost with beneficial bacteria from probiotics, thus resetting your gut flora.
*Note: It’s recommended that anything with BCPH or binders be taken at least 90 minutes away from any meds, probiotics, and antipathogens. In my case, however, I would get SO SICK after taking an anti-pathogen that I would have to drink a BCPH shake 20 minutes afterward. I bent the rules to what worked best for my body because of the severity of my HERX. It’s important to listen to your gut!
I’d love to hear from you all! Have any of you tried binders before? Please share your experiences with me below!
Has anyone experienced a deep itch in outer areas of their arms and legs while detoxing? Would binders help avoid that?
Hi Leiann – great question! The short answer is yes, Linsy has used binders to help with hives/allergic reactions. She’ll be shooting a video on this topic tomorrow, so stay tuned for it! I will send it to you once it’s available. 🙂
Hi there. Random, silly question I have, but I’d love to hear thoughts 🙂
I am currently doing Jini’s Wild Oil of Oregano Protocol( I’m using Joy of the mountains brand),, but I’m struggling with something that I feel should be so simple…. getting the appropriate amount of drops in me. I’ve watched the videos on the best way to take WOO but I either take too many drops or too little. By that I mean I think I’m filling the dropper with 10 drops but it’s really 15-20 drops. What am I doing wrong? Is there an easier way to get the 10 drops? Can I put them in water? Oil and water may not be a good mix? I also tend to also hit the dropper on my teeth when I try and shoot it back in my throat-… that concerns me a bit as I don’t want to containment the bottle (although I’m the only one using it) any helpful tips will be much appreciated. Thank you much.
Hi Amber – not a silly question at all! If you put the drops in water and then drink the mixture, you will lose a lot of the oil to the sides/bottom of your glass so I wouldn’t recommend that.
This might work for you: practice (by loading the dropper with what you think is 10 drops and then releasing back into the bottle one drop at a time) until you can get roughly 10 drops loaded into your dropper. Then hold up your index finger alongside the dropper and use it as a measuring tool – notice where on your finger the oil (inside the dropper) comes to on your finger. Then each time, you can check the dropper against your finger. OR use a stiff ruler and measure how far up the dropper the oil needs to be.
Your other option is to load the dropper by feel and let your body decide the dosage each time 😉
I don’t think there’s an issue with the dropper knocking your teeth – whatever may get transferred will be killed anyway. My kids do that all the time, and I’ve done it myself and it’s never been an issue.
Hope that helps!
Hi Jini,
I came across your blog which is a life saver.
Hope you can receive this message.
I started a detox program from Aug-23 to Sep-23. I have fatty liver issue.
At the start of Oct-23, my body broke into rashes in my underarms and stomachs.
It was very severe. And went on for 3 weeks until I finally succumbed to the doctor’s prescription for antibiotics. He thinks I have had some allergy.
It subsided briefly and I had another major flare at the end of Nov-23. It felt like a continuation of my rashes or hives that was temporary stopped.
Rashes broke out literally all over my entire body.
I came across someone on the detox program and your blog who both suggested binders. I took it for 2 weeks now,
My rashes are slowly going away; although there are some new rashes coming up underarm.
My question is – do I had the detox program in Aug/ Sep. Is it possible that I’m still suffering as a consequence of it after many months? I am only having the binders for two weeks, I hope the toxins would soon be removed by the binders.
My rashes are unbearable and unsightly.
Any recommendations to manage this would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Regards,
Faith
Hi Faith, thanks for sharing your situation and we hope you are continuing to see improvement! Jini has another blog post that discusses skin issues while detoxing: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/detoxing-balancing-gut-flora-can-cause-skin-issues/
Linsy also made this video and blog in response to some questions about this post: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/im-detoxing-ive-got-itchy-hives-help/
I hope that these posts and the products in them will be helpful to you!
In addition to the resources Isabel gave you…
If the rashes and spots are the body releasing toxins through the skin, then you would only use Comfrey salve if you were having itching that was driving you crazy.
But if they represent your body detoxing through the skin (a common route of elimination), then you don’t actually want to heal these eruptions, you want to help them do their job.
So, in that case, you can try wild oregano oil, or DMSO mixed with wild oregano, or Clay poultices – applied to the rashes and spots. You want to *help* your skin organ draw out and flush these toxins or die-off byproducts.
If you’re not sure what exactly is happening, then you just have to test these different substances and see how your body reacts. Your body will show you what is helpful and what is not.
Linsy’s post is very good as she has a lot of experience with this and I believe she is also doing an Instagram Live on this topic, so that will posted here on the blog in a few days if you miss it on IG.
Thanks, Linsy! As always your info is very helpful. Oh, quick question. Is flaxseed powder acceptable. I ordered flax seed, but they sent flax seed powder 🙁
Recently, after feeling ‘healed’, I tried juicing, and had a bad reaction – was even worse than initial diagnosis of Diverticulitis, when I could NOT eat anything for 6 weeks! 🙂 The Bentonite Clay cleared up the symptoms in two days, and I stopped after 2 weeks of use, feeling that was good for me. Finally got an appmt with ND for testing, who couldn’t believe I wasn’t having any nausea, and I don’t think she thought I had yeast infection because it was making me feel so ‘normal’. After two weeks, tho the symptoms came back again, which I related to her, but to me it was amazing how the Bentonite Clay detox actually kept me feeling like a normal person without any issues at all for TWO weeks AFTER I last took it! For me, it’s bloating, nausea and abdominal pain that get so severe that even the shakes and ANY food just made things even worse, so there was NO DESIRE to consume anything. Thanks again!
Hello! In regards to the flaxseed powder, I’m actually not too sure. I would think that it wouldn’t have enough “bulk” to do what it needs to do since it’s grinded down to powder. That being said, I have never tried it myself. If you do, let us know your experience! 🙂
For diverticulitis, I would read through Jini’s steps here: https://listentoyourgut.com/diverticulitis/
The fact that the binder has given you relief, even if temporary, is very interesting, and sounds like you are on the right track to something! When I was having bad flares, I had to use binders every day just to get through it – with liquid dieting so my abdominal pain would subside.
I’m currently working on a blog about “abdominal pain that lands me in the hospital – what to do?” This post will be based on a few people I knew with this issue and the times I experienced it (back in the day). When this is ready and published this may be helpful to you, so look out for that!
In the meantime, for temporary relief, I always suck on Jini’s DGL tablets for nausea relief: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/shop-by-deglycyrrhizinated-licorice-dgl/
For pain, I ALWAYS use Jini’s recommended castor oil pack with a heating pad on top to make it warm: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/hot-castor-oil-pack-for-ibd-or-ibs-pain-spasming-bloating/
Jini has even mentioned using aloe vera topically on your belly, as it may provide relief for some.
I also always take Jini’s atom-sized Magnesium for any cramps, as it doesn’t cause loose stools either. Perhaps that may help with your abdominal pain? Here are the details on that as well: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/quikplus-atom-sized-ionic-minerals/
Whenever I’m in pain I also lose my desire to eat, if that’s any consolation to you. What I would do if I couldn’t tolerate a shake is sip on bone broth and/or Jini’s recommended brand of Aloe Vera (George’s). These can be very soothing and gut-calming during moments where you can’t tolerate food.
Here are some homemade broth recipes: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/jinis-bone-veggie-broth-recipes/
And here are more details on George’s Aloe Vera: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/shop-by-aloe-vera/
I hope this can be helpful, and that you feel better very soon! 🙂 – Linsy