VSL#3 and Its Clinical Results
If you read through the probiotic selection criteria given in Chapter Two of Listen To Your Gut, you will see that VSL#3 doesn’t meet all the criteria for a fully bioavailable, therapeutic probiotic of maximum potency (these selection criteria were taken from microbiology research).
But yet, this probiotic has shown great results in clinical trials.
How can that be?
Something that is not common knowledge is that the trials done using VSL#3 were not done using the commercial product that is sold to customers, but using fresh product, straight out of the lab.
I contacted the manufacturers years ago about this, but they refused to comment or send me any further information.
Scientific Theory vs. Individual Results: Listen to Your Gut
This is not to say that VSL#3 and other probiotics have no therapeutic value, because the final decision to action must be based upon experiential evidence. You can have all the scientific theory in the world proving or disproving any given thing.
Whilst we must research and use our intellectual gifts, at the end of the day, you’ve got to do what works!
Often I have had a strong intuition about something and years later scientific evidence has proved me correct.
And, as has already been pointed out, different things work for different people. Which is why my book is titled, Listen To YOUR Gut – not someone else’s. And never give your power away to any authority.
Can Dead Probiotics have Positive Effects?
One last interesting tidbit to chew on: In Natasha Trenev’s book, Probiotics: Nature’s Internal Healers, she outlines several studies that show that even when bacteria are completely dead, or even absent, they still have a protective effect!
One example given is that they put a species of probiotic into the center of a petri dish containing a pathogenic bacteria. The pathogens fled to outer edges of the petri dish, trying to get as far away as possible.
Then they dumped out the contents of the petri dish and cleaned it thoroughly. When they added the pathogen again, they still fled to the outer edges of the petri dish.
Why? Was there an ‘energetic footprint’ left behind by the probiotic?
Or some incredibly minute particle that still remained despite washing the dish? Who knows.
But it’s absolutely fascinating and illustrates how even if you consume a probiotic that’s mostly dead, it can still have a positive effect.
So, in the end, do what works. If you get better results from VSL#3, then use that.
Probiotic Cycling
Again, I must refer to one reader’s story who got the best results from probiotic cycling – he alternated Natren, VSL#3 and Dr. Ohira’s.
If he stayed on any one, his symptoms would return, but by cycling through them, he avoided any flares (as soon as symptoms would begin to return, he’d switch brands).
All these brands are good ones to experiment with as none contain anything harmful.
Personally, I wish more people would experiment with this (probiotic cycling) as I’d love to hear what happens, and perhaps we can come up with an even more improved protocol.
Oh yes, one last thing. Previously, I did express my reservations about not taking probiotics whilst bleeding.
This was not based on any scientific evidence, but merely my own feeling about not doing too many things at once (since when the body is very ill it is often oversensitized and trying to treat everything at once can trigger a flare).
Listen to YOUR Gut!
However, as I do state in LTYG, there is a colon clinic in Sydney that has used high dose oral Natren probiotics.
And daily Natren retention enemas to treat bleeding cases of Crohn’s and Colitis with much success, for several years now.
So again, please follow your own gut. As long as you are not supplementing with bacterial soil organisms (like Mercola’s, Primal Defense, etc.) you should be fine.
Your thoughts ran in perfection along all my thoughts on probitics. I started with Natren in 1984 of December. After many illnesses and Gallbladder removal, I decided to switch to VSL#3. It has helped especially my freguent IBS symptoms. But for some reason today after taking VSL#3 I decided to reorder a fresh Bottle of Mega Dopilus..Lactobacillus, and Bifidus and start taking them again I fear my body needs a change, my Son just happened to feel the same and had found this Website, our minds both think so much a like. Megadophilus saved me from C-Diff when I was pregnate with him in December of 1984. A intelligent lady that I ask what was safe to take being pregnate lead me to to most important natural supplement in my life!!! I shall never forget telling my OBGYN as I had diarrhea quit bad for 3 weeks, not a good thing …yes brought on by antibiotics, just a mild case but the Mega Dopilus saved my life. With one dose my tummy quit hurting we never have stopped using Natren our Dogs even take it. Saved our one Dog from a mild case of salmonella . It works that is the truth never quit voiceing your opinion. It saves lifes! Thank you for the great Article. I praise God each day for these great products. Thank you for sharing never quit. Barbara
Hi Barbara,
Thanks so much for taking the time to write in and share your story. It’s great to hear that the Natren probiotics are working so well for you and we wish you all the best.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Your so Welcome Justin!
My prayers are your company stay in good hands and that all. Are treated very well. Employees, are the essence of the Integrity and Honesty of the company, each of you work hard. Shall everyone always be as kind to you , as you were to me. Such a blessing.
Thank you, Barbara
I was just reading an article by Gabor Erdosi on a recent study about probiotics. It specifically mentions VSL#3® https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ijpo.12273
And according to this study,
VSL#3 supplementation may lead to increased adiposity in obese Latino adolescents with no significant detectable changes in gut microbiota, gut appetite‐regulating hormones, liver fat and fibrosis and dietary intake…
Which after researching other articles on gut bacteria and probiotics, I found a number of them also warned against this particular probiotic. I have been taking Dr Mercola’s probiotic –and although I am not hispanic, I recently noticed my tummy is getting bigger. I have never had a tummy, and eat no sugar at all. All organic, or grass-fed food. I notice this is an older article, but curious if you still recommend Natren?
Hi Laurie,
Yes, Natren is the only brand that Jini recommends and uses through years of research and experience and the only one with all the requirements (probiotic strain selection, manufacturing, storage, and other factors effecting potency and efficacy). You can have many strains of bacteria in a product, but if they are not the right kind, they won’t help you.
Jini has recently been discussing probiotics with Natren founder, Natasha Trenev, and addresses this question as well as many other topics. You can watch her Q&A videos by clicking on the links below:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/microbiome-indigenous-wisdom-meets-science-fermenting-foods/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/healthy-gut-bugs-qa-session-1-improve-your-microbiota/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/healthy-gut-bugs-qa-session-2-improve-your-microbiota/
Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Kind Regards,
Cris B
Customer Care