In my post about natural treatment for depression, vitamin D was mentioned as a substance that people are often deficient in. Today’s post (courtesy of the Vitamin D Council) goes into the problem of vitamin D deficiency and treatment more in depth.
Again, this is a very relevant issue for people with IBD and IBS – since many have been on a steroid or immune suppressant drug that has greatly interfered with bone formation and maintenance (for which vitamin D is key). Also, if you get a lot of cavities in your teeth, adequate intake of vitamin D (or not taking minerals in an absorbable form) may be the culprit. In my family: All 3 of my kids take 2,000 IU vitamin D per day, along with cod liver oil. My husband and I take 4,000 IU per day, and of course, we take our cod liver oil and nanoparticle minerals, including lots of magnesium.
Why Take Extra Magnesium With Vitamin D?
Vitamin D requires magnesium to be converted to its active form. Therefore, the more Vitamin D you take, the more magnesium you need. If you are not getting adequate magnesium, then you may become constipated, get muscle cramps, heart problems, etc. (there’s a list of about 110 ailments that are caused by magnesium deficiency).
See my blog post specifically on Magnesium for all the details on the different forms, absorption rates, and how to figure out which one is best for you. My good friend, Dr. Carolyn Dean MD ND spends a lot of time educating people about why it’s so necessary to get enough magnesium, especially when you are supplementing with calcium or vitamin D:
“Everyone thinks there’s a Vitamin D deficiency epidemic but I’m not convinced. The big question is, why all of a sudden are we so deficient. What could Vitamin D be responding to and what do the low levels indicate?
Here’s one possible answer. Vitamin D is really a hormone with a feedback loop to calcium. When the body has enough calcium less Vitamin D is required and the levels drop.
We are a calcified country, so the effect of high calcium may be lower levels of Vitamin D. And without understanding the complex chemistry involved, most people think we just need to take more.
But MORE Vitamin D pulls in more calcium and bumps out magnesium, making people more magnesium deficient.
Taking high dose Vitamin D (anything above 2,000 IU) will also use up your magnesium because this mineral is required to change the supplemental/storage form of Vitamin D into active Vitamin D.
Not everyone is going to suffer from too much Vitamin D and enough people seem to benefit from it (at least in the short term) that it’s not going to ring any alarm bells for many years. After all, it took about 3 decades for us to realize that high dose calcium supplementation was causing heart disease and soft tissue calcification when not properly balanced with magnesium.
Do your research before taking high dose Vitamin D. Google the benefits AND the dangers before you make a decision. If you do a Vitamin D blood test, remember a mid range level is better than a high level.”
Now, here’s the article on Vitamin D. Enjoy……
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Another Vitamin D Quiz
This month we have a ten question quiz on the latest vitamin D research. Here’s a primer.
Question: Name a rat poison crucial to health and safer than water.
Answer: Vitamin D
Yes, cholecalciferol is a rat poison.
If it is a rat poison, why did Professor Heaney just recommend up to 4,000 units every day?
JSteroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2005 Jul 15; [Epub ahead of print]The answer is dosage. To demonstrate the point, I recently swallowed an entire bottle (100 capsules) of vitamin D (40,000 units) in front of a skeptical audience to convince them that vitamin D is safer than water. Here’s why. Eight glasses of water a day is fine for healthy adults. Ten times that amount, eighty glasses of water, will make you sick from water intoxication.
Humans need about 4,000 units of vitamin D a day (from all sources). Ten times that amount, 40,000 units, is very safe in a single dose, as I demonstrated to the audience. Therefore, vitamin D has a safer therapeutic index than water.
(Taking the entire bottle certainly got the audience’s attention. I think they were paying close attention to see if I would drop dead. By the way, if you were to take 40,000 units every day for months you would get vitamin D toxicity, after years of such doses you would probably die. After taking 40,000 units at one time – equivalent to two days at the beach – I simply stayed out of the sun for several days).
A rat poison safer than water – but why do we need vitamin D? Within the last several months, scientists published impressive new evidence that vitamin D is involved in a staggering array of diseases: age related cognitive decline, heart disease, breast cancer, tuberculosis, Parkinson’s disease, prostate cancer, chronic pain, fractured hips, premenstrual syndrome and diabetes.
Good time for another quiz.
1. Vitamin D reverses inflammatory changes associated with age-related memory impairment.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. Researchers from Ireland were the first to demonstrate that vitamin D3 acts as an anti-inflammatory agent and turns old brains into young brains – at least as far as inflammatory cytokines are concerned. This research suggests vitamin D may prevent, or even treat, age-related cognitive decline!
Biochem Soc Trans. 2005 Aug;33(Pt 4):573-7.2. Your blood sugar is closely associated with your vitamin D level.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. Researchers in Australia added to the growing evidence that sun avoidance may have caused the epidemic of type 2 diabetes. The Australians’ findings were straightforward and powerful. The higher your vitamin D level, the lower your blood glucose.
Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 2005 Jun;62(6):738-41.3. In July, a group from Minnesota found that 100% of elderly patients admitted for fragility fractures were vitamin D deficient despite the fact that half of them were taking vitamin D supplements.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. The authors found that women taking supplemental vitamin D had average levels of 16.4 ng/ml while women not taking supplements had levels of 11.9.ng/ml, both dangerously low. None of the 82 women got enough sun or took enough vitamin D to obtain a level of 40 ng/ml. These were fragility fractures, not fractures caused by unusual trauma. That is, their bones just sort of fell apart.
Curr Med Res Opin. 2005 Jul;21(7):1069-74.4. Women with the lowest vitamin D levels had five times higher risk for breast cancer.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. Women with 25(OH)-vitamin D blood levels less than 20 ng/ml were more than five times more likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer than were women with levels above 60 ng/ml. That is five, repeat five, times less likely!
Eur J Cancer. 2005 May;41(8):1164-9. Epub 2005 Apr 14.5. Avoiding the sun doubles the risk of prostate cancer.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. Again, the risk of avoiding the sun is clear, this time in another study with prostate cancer. However, the authors pointed out that sun exposure increases the risk of skin cancer and believed that proper vitamin D supplementation ‘may be the safest solution to achieve an adequate vitamin D status.’
Cancer Res. 2005 Jun 15;65(12):5470-9.I also believe supplementation is the only way to go for many people. African Americans are simply unable spend adequate time in the sun. In addition, the sun ages the skin and that fact alone will keep many Americans out of the sun. That said, I go into the sun whenever I can. The reason is simple: it is the most conservative thing to do. Until we know everything the sun does – and it does more than just make vitamin D – the conservative approach is to mimic our ancestors and the environment in which human evolved, whenever we can. Therefore, it makes sense to sunbathe sensibly in the late spring, summer, and early fall and take supplements or use UVB lamps the rest of the time.
6. South Korean researchers associated vitamin D deficiency with Parkinson’s Disease.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. Actually, they showed that certain genetic malformations (VDR polymorphisms) are more likely in-patients with Parkinson’s Disease, implying an association with vitamin D and Parkinson’s.
JKorean Med Sci. 2005 Jun;20(3):495-8.7. Researchers in England discovered that patients with chronic pain have phenomenally low vitamin D levels.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. The authors added to the evidence that severe vitamin D deficiency is associated with chronic pain. They found that 88% of their patients with chronic pain had levels less than 10 ng/ml. If they treated their patients, they did not report it. However, Swiss researchers recently treated chronic pain patients with vitamin D and reported the pain ‘disappeared’ within one to three months in most of their patients. This is the second open study that showed adequate doses of vitamin D dramatically improve chronic pain.
Ann Rheum Dis. 2005 Aug;64(8):1217-9.
BMJ. 2004 Jul 17;329(7458):156-7.
Spine. 2003 Jan 15;28(2):177-9.8. Severe vitamin D deficiency is common in TB patients.
Some English doctors don’t know the difference between ideal and “normal” levels.
Most American doctors don’t know the difference either.
a) All are true
b) All are false
c) Some are true and some are falseAll are true. First, the authors reviewed the impressive animal evidence that vitamin D can help treat TB. Then they reported that most of their immigrant TB patients had undetectable vitamin D levels. Then they reported the normal range for their lab was between 5 to 47 ng/ml but “normal” was any level greater than 9 ng/ml. Finally, the researchers reported they treated their patients with “normal daily doses” of vitamin D, without reporting how much they gave. Apparently, they gave just enough to get patients above 9 ng/ml.
JInfect. 2005 Jun;50(5):432-7.Keep in mind that different laboratory technique result in different ranges for 25(OH)-vitamin D levels. Now matter what technique is used, ideal levels can roughly be defined as any level above the median. In this case, as you will see below in Dr. Heaney”s article, the doctors should have treated their patients with 4,000 units a day. They should also watch for evidence of vitamin D hypersensitivity, which can occur when treating tuberculosis patients for vitamin D deficiency.
We can only mourn for the poor immigrants who have to suffer from both TB and vitamin D deficiency. Of course, few physicians in the USA know the difference between the Gaussian definition of “normal” (average ranges for the population tested) and the ideal definition of “normal” (levels above 32 ng/ml). Getting commercial reference labs to report ideal 25(OH)-vitamin D levels should be a priority of everyone involved in trying to end the epidemic of vitamin D deficiency.
9. Virtually all nephrologists give renal failure patients a vitamin D-like drug.
Virtually all renal failure patients are severely vitamin D deficient.
Some nephrologists know the difference between vitamin D and calcitriol.
a) All are true
b) All are false
c) Some are true and some are false.All are true. Finally, the truth about renal failure patients: most of them are vitamin D deficient despite taking vitamin D analogs! Most nephrologists prescribe activated vitamin D (calcitriol) or vitamin D analogs but not vitamin D. Calcitriol and vitamin D analogs do nothing to prevent vitamin D deficiency. Renal failure patients need both vitamin D and a calcitriol-like drug. Moreover, 400 units a day of vitamin D will not correct their deficiencies. As you will see below, they need up to 4,000.
Am J Kidney Dis. 2005 Jun;45(6):1026-33.P.S. If you think nephrologists know the difference between vitamin D and calcitriol, read this months paper from some nephrologists at the University of Texas. They discuss the importance of vitamin D in preventing and treating heart disease. (I think adequate vitamin D nutrition may prevent more cardiovascular deaths than cancer deaths.) However, I read the Texas paper three times and still don’t know if the authors know the difference between vitamin D and calcitriol. I hope they know the difference between cholesterol and testosterone. (Some cholesterol is metabolized into steroid hormones, vitamin D is a prehormone; testosterone is a steroid hormone, calcitriol is the most potent steroid hormone in the human body).
Kidney Int Suppl. 2005 Jun;(95):S37-42.10. Professor Robert Heaney proved, again, that he is a gentleman and a scholar.
a) True
b) FalseTrue. In the most important clinical paper published this month, Heaney gave the three best reasons why we should all maintain minimum levels of at least 32 ng/ml, the level that:
(a) effectively suppresses PTH,
(b) maximizes calcium absorption,
(c) maximally improves glucose tolerance.Then he goes on to show that some of us, especially African Americans, will need to take 3,000 to 4,000 units every day to maintain healthy 25(OH)-vitamin D blood levels.
JSteroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2005 Jul 15.He then defends the Institute of Medicine’s (IOM) recommendation that we only take one-tenth that amount as the best science that was available in 1997. I admire Dr. Heaney for trying to cover for the IOM. The truth is that both Dr. Heaney and Dr. Holick told the IOM that 2,000 units a day was not toxic and would prevent both adequate treatment and meaningful research. The IOM then proceeded to ignore the only two vitamin D experts on the panel.
Writing two years later, Professor Reinhold Vieth came up with dozens of studies the IOM overlooked. These studies conclusively showed 2,000 units a day could not be toxic. Furthermore, Vieth found the literature published before 1997 clearly showed 10,000 units a day was unlikely to be toxic. Vitamin D toxicity probably starts around 20,000 units a day, and then only if taken for months or even years.
Am J Clin Nutr. 1999 May;69(5):842-56.Imagine. A rat poison safer than water and crucial to health.
John Cannell, MD
9100 San Gregorio Road
Atascadero, CA 93422
The Vitamin D Council
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Jini,
I’ve taken vitamin D and experienced terrible constipation. I no longer take it, despite my deficiency. However, I’m told to take it with vitamin K2 to avoid that. And perhaps as a sublingual spray.
I’m surprised you don’t experience constipation with it—perhaps because you take a lot of magnesium?
CAROL – Vitamin D requires magnesium to be converted to its active form. Therefore, the more vitamin D you take, the more magnesium you need. If you are not getting adequate magnesium, then you may become constipated (among other things – there’s a list of about 110 ailments that are caused by magnesium deficiency).
See my blog post on Magnesium for all the details on the different forms, absorption rates, and figuring out which one is best for you:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/transdermal-and-nano-sized-magnesium/
I’ve been doing a lot of reading on vitamin D and I have UC. It appears that any toxicity from D3 intake comes from calcium not the D itself so you can get your blood levels up to over 100 ng/ml without toxicity as long as you don’t take calcium supplements. To get levels that high, which seems to have great benefits, you would need to have sufficient magnesium intake, but that need only come from whole foods unless you were depleted before. So you may not need magnesium supplements to reach a normal D level. In fact it seems a range of 60 to 100 is more ideal for health, up to 150 may be even better. So far I’ve managed to get mine to 45 ng/ml by taking 10,000 IUs a day for 3 months. Now I take 20,000. Some doctors are also treating UC patients with 20,000 for 6 months and I know of one doctor who uses 50,000 IUs daily with success and without toxity for many diseases. He aims for a blood level between 100 and 200 ng/ml.
Soon I think the truth will come out how safe Vitamin D is and many diseases will be prevented. Studies have already been done showing 40,000 IUs causes no toxicity. It may cause unpleasant but temporary healing reactions if levels are increased too fast. but with a benfitial outcome. I believe many more studies should confirm this in the next few years
PHILIP – would be really great if you could get your magnesium levels tested and let us know what they are now and then again 6 months later. This would really help to give us an idea of the effect of high vit. D supplementation on magnesium levels.
This is interesting – see what it says about relation of magnesium to GI disorders:
http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/magnesium/tab/test
Also interesting, a recent blog from Dr Carolyn Dean MD ND:
The American College of Cardiology (ACC) hosted about 15,000 health professionals at their San Francisco conference March 9-11, 2013. The ACC puts on several conferences each year each heavily financed by hundreds of drug company exhibitors.
They debated the recent studies reporting that calcium supplements increase the risk of heart disease. They did say “It is uncertain exactly how calcium supplements work to increase MI risk.” Anyone reading my blog should know by now that calcium precipitates into arteries and soft tissue because of magnesium deficiency. And also because of not enough Vitamin K2 from traditional foods like butter from grass fed cows, liver pâté and fish roe.
From the bone specialists, a MedScape report states that “Scant evidence supports the notion that calcium supplements alone significantly decrease the risk for osteoporotic fracture, yet these supplements remain one of the most popular treatments taken by adults in the United States.”
So, there is no longer a reason to use calcium and maybe we can begin to educate more doctors about magnesium. But that may be a problem because Vitamin D has replaced calcium as the nutrient of choice for doctors to recommend.
Here is a story from one of my blog readers about her experience with Vitamin D.
“Things that have been happening to me are making more sense as I read your newsletters about Vitamin D. I started taking 5,000 iu of vitamin D (plus some Omega 3 fish oils) in October 2010 and I did great! I could walk without a limp again, my knees stopped hurting, my feet stopped hurting. I was and still am a true believer and user of Vitamin D & Omega 3. BUT I had a scary episode of Angina in March 2012 and that’s when I started taking the Natural Calm.
I believe now, based on your articles, I was taking too much Vitamin D and it may have caused the Angina, but of course I’m not certain.
Before your first article I had cut back on my Vitamin D to 2500 iu a day, but only for financial reasons, but I always take my Natural Calm regularly. I am such a believer in Magnesium now, you, just don’t know, and I’m so THANKFUL for you and your work. I just cannot thank you enough (with tears, and REALLY with tears :).
You just don’t know how frustrated I am now about how I was treated by the doctors while I was in the hospital with my Angina episode. They were no help at all in helping solve my Angina health issue… all they could say is “This is stress related.” and prescribed Ranexa for me while leaving scared for my life for the two weeks between my hospital stay and finding your website.”
You can read the whole thing here:
http://drcarolyndean.com/2013/03/take-magnesium-not-calcium/
Jini, Firstly I recognise the role of magnesium because I’ve previously suffered from arrythmia as a result of my UC and had a lot of cramping. It took me many months to resolve that with high magnesium foods and what chelated magnesium supplements I could tolerate. I now rely on green juices, seeds, almond milk, spinach etc for my magnesium and seldom take supplements.
I think I’d recognise if I didn’t have enough magnesium to cope with the D3 I was taking.
I disagree with much of Carolyn Deans concerns and especially her view about the 40 ng/ml being sufficient.
People who normally work outdoors would have a level around double that and higher levels may be needed for curative effects. 50,000 IU doses may be excessive but 10 to 20,000 surely are not, and there is no evidence of toxicity from that amount that I have found regarding calcium levels.
I agree it’s not wise to supplement calcium but that wouldn’t necessarily cause a problem with less than 20,000 IU D3 as long as magnesium was supplemented in balance, but I prefer to supplement only magnesium if necessary. The article you quote is over 10 years old, recent evidence suggests that up to 40,000 could be safe long term. Blood testing would be needed if taking over 20,000 long term of course
http://www.grassrootshealth.net/garland02-11
I think it’s important for UC to consider that higher levels in the range of 60 to 100 may be better especialy bearing in mind the protection gainst colon cancer, and to maintain those levels around 10,000 IUs a day would be needed, especially living at high latitudes like the UK. I’m looking forward to the results of more studies and my own experience to confirm the benefits but I think Carolyn Deans concerns are largely unfounded. I do agree that huge doses weekly or monthly are not the best way, nor is using D2 rather than D3 but hopefully more research will confirm this.
Also I don’t think it’s worth my testing for magnesium but I will consider that. It’s hard to convince doctors where I live in the UK to test for anything like that.
I do also take some K2 but I don’t know if that is totally essential and I also use ghee for a source of that.
Well we’ll see how it goes.