In my continuing quest for cavity-free dental health for my family, I have taken a second look at fluoride. Whilst knowing that fluoride hardens tooth enamel very effectively, we have stayed away from it because of the negative systemic effects (toxicity and fluorosis).
As I took a second, more in-depth look at this mineral though, I came to realize that there is a big difference between ingested fluoride (fluoridated water, fluoride supplements) and topical fluoride (toothpaste, mouthwash, fluoride trays on your teeth at the dentist).
Watching my daughter receive three anesthetic injections prior to her latest dental work, I thought, “Okay, but which is more toxic to her body: fluoride toothpaste topically, or these drugs directly into her bloodstream?”
I’m also wondering about the synergy of using fluoride in toothpaste and then holding the Bone Matrix nano-sized minerals in the mouth immediately afterwards – would this re-mineralize the teeth further and provide even harder enamel?
“A report by Czechoslovakian researchers indicates that fluoride matters little when it comes to preventing tooth decay. A study of 745 children aged 6 to 14 years, from several localities of Czechoslovakia where the drinking water contains calcium and magnesium in large amounts, showed impressively fewer caries in these children than in others throughout the country. This finding was no surprise to other scientists who reported previously that calcium combined with magnesium has a beneficial effect on the resistance of teeth to caries. Interestingly, in all of the localities where tooth decay was below average, the fluoride content of the water was also low.” (Cesk. Stomat., May-June, 1966.)
“Fluoride gets a lot of the credit for preventing tooth decay that should go to magnesium, a University of Colorado dental researcher says. He is Dr. Lewis Barnett, who has been doing research into tooth decay since 1950. Barnett said that magnesium also strengthens teeth and bone. ‘It is just as feasible for communities to add magnesium to their water supplies,’ he said. Given a choice between fluoride and magnesium, Barnett said, he would choose magnesium.” (“Researcher Says Magnesium Aids Dental Health,” St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Aug. 28, 1966)
You’ll notice that these two quotes both referred to fluoride in the drinking water – not topically applied fluoride. As you read through this report, you’ll begin to understand what the difference and significance is between these two methods of usage.
What follows is a sampling of my research into the fluoride issue and what led me to my decision to try topical fluoride next for my family:
DOWNLOAD FLUORIDE USAGE REPORT HERE
And then please tell me your thoughts, questions and own stories in the COMMENTS section below…
UPDATE – July 2014:
Okay, here’s the update a few of you requested: 2.5 years later, we are still using the fluoride toothpaste, the one we use is Natural Dentist Anti-Cavity toothpaste
The kids continue to drink raw milk and swish for 1 minute after brushing their teeth with Bone Matrix – a nano-sized Bone/Tooth Support blend. They also floss most nights with flossing sticks.
In fact, you can see the brands for ALL the products we use (I prefer the PerioBrite mouth wash) in this new section I created on my Shoppe for: Dental Health
My eldest two kids have been cavity-free for 2 years. My youngest got his first fillings (age 8) because once he started school, the sugar train runs non-stop and parents at soccer keep giving him Gatorade (gak!!) which he drinks at least half of before I see him.
I have LOTS more to say on this topic and have been compiling a ton of research – so when it’s all ready, I’ll be releasing a book.
My last visit to my dentist involved a new machine from Europe that produces a “super clot” from your own blood; that can then be used in place of a bone graft. This super clot produces solid, healthy bone in 1/3 of the time (versus bone graft procedures). A great way to replace bone lost from jaw/tooth infection. We used it after excavating a huge amount of infected, mushy bone from my jaw and it worked brilliantly.
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Soar higher,
Jini
[…] Why Our Family Is Trying Fluoride Toothpaste […]
how has the toothpaste experiment been going for you? Everything I read says that Vitamin K2, D, and A are vital to teeth health…
I am strongly anti-Fluoride after continual ingestion caused my gut health to be poor. It gave me fluoroderma, because there are so many sources – water, cereal, pesticides on grapes, other fruit, lettuces, the fatty parts of chicken, small fish.
Please, supplement those vitamins! Don’t use traditional fluoride toothpaste
hi Jini,
This post is old but i wanted to comment anyways. I recently reverted back to using topical fluoride as well after the suggestion of a holistic dentist. There in fact is a great difference between topical and ingested fluoride. The benefits outweigh the risks by far if not ingested – just think about the negatives of having dental work in the mouth. Continued decay will eventually lead to root canals (terrible for health) and tooth loss (even worse for health).
I just started following Dr Ellie’s system as well. AND I’m using your Mini Minerals as well together with W. A. Price diet. I’m going to stop my oral health from deteriorating, I’m determined!!
Also, you might like Biorepair toothpaste, it has hydroxyapatite instead of fluoride, which is very similar to tooth structure.
I would love to get an update on your family’s dental health success.
I am with Athena, I would love an update as well. And I have to say Athena, that I am on board with you, trying Dr Ellie’s system as well as the nano Minerals etc. I am just ordering everything this week and am determined to get my healthy teeth bath!
Do you have any progress to discuss? It would be so appreciated!
Well, here’s the update: 2.5 years later, we are still using the fluoride toothpaste, here’s the one we use:
https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/products/natural-dentist-cavity-zapper-anticavity-gel-toothpaste-groovy-grape-5-oz
The kids continue to drink raw milk and swish with this nano-sized Bone/Tooth Support blend:
https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/products/quikplus-atom-sized-ionic-bone-matrix
In fact, you can get the brands for ALL the products we use (I prefer the PerioBrite mouth wash) in this new section I created:
https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/collections/dental-health
My eldest two kids have been cavity-free for 2 years. My youngest got his first fillings (age 8) because once he started school, the sugar train runs non-stop and parents at soccer keep giving him Gatorade (gak!!) which he drinks at least half of before I see him!
I have LOTS more to say on this topic and have been compiling a ton of research – so when it’s all ready, I’ll be releasing a book.
This week I’m videoing a new machine from Europe that produces a “super clot” from your own blood, that can be used in place of a bone graft and produces solid, healthy bone in 1/3 of the time. A great way to replace bone lost from jaw/tooth infection.
If you’re subscribed to my blog, you’ll be kept up to date and won’t miss any of the upcoming stuff…
Hi Jini,
thanks for the update! You might be interested in reading thedentalessentials website (you might already know). They assert that you can basically make up for sugar consumption by increasing phosphorus/calcium intake. It appears to me that their supplement (amongst other vitamins for bone/oral health) is basically bone meal/hydroxyapatite. I was able to raise my oral ph from a hideous 4.5 to a perfect 6.9-7 (waking) and a restorative 7.4-7.6 (mid afternoon) that way.
I’ve also switched up my cleaning routine to waterpick, POH floss, Dioxi-Rinse, Carifree CT4x gel with Sonicare brush, Listerine, Carifree fluoride rinse (nighttime routine). Morning and mid-day I use a POH Bass brush (LOVE it) with whatever paste I’m still trying to use up and I eat ~ 10g xylitol during the day. I have successfully reversed a compromised spot from a 32 on the diagnodent to a 21. I do get staining on my teeth from the fluoride but have next to none plaque anymore. My carifree screening score (oral bacterial load) was a 200 (pretty darn perfect!).
I have also stopped eating low-carb and started eating grains again including gluten. Still on a whole foods diet though.
For gum/jaw bone health also I found RPE (regenerative periodontal endoscopy). No personal experience with this yet but thinking about trying it (I have minimal bone loss from longterm anorexia, not periodontal disease).
Thanks again for the update!
Very interesting info, I’ll be looking more into it.
Have you done any research into Salivarius? After noticing an increase in plaque build-up following some health issues, I was recommended this probiotic for the mouth by Dr. Ara Elmajian. After a month on it – one tablet dissolved in the mouth once a day – I’m back to squeaky clean teeth. According to Dr. Ara Elmajian it plays a key role to ensure healthy teeth and gums, but I haven’t done any in-depth research on it myself.
Yes I have, if you type “salivarius mouth bacteria” into Google, it will pull up some good trials etc. on it. What is the name/brand of the product Ara gave you?
Has anyone head of a correlation between IBS and root canals? The reason I ask, I have been very healthy all my life, maybe 2 yrs. ago realized I needed to eat healthier and started to move to more natural raw fruits & veggies. I cook at least 75% of what I eat. Then suddenly I had a bad bout of diverticulitis (my first), no bleeding, now bowel issues just terrible gas and pain.
Used Elemental diet for 6 weeks, and I did NOT notice any food allergies when I tested, and I thought I was eating pretty well (staying away from processed foods, sugar – mostly), when about a yr. later, the same thing. One minor thing I suffer from is sinus (allergies especially in summer), but I had discovered that by using garlic, cayenne, and making a tomato tea and drinking lots of water and fruit juices, I rarely ever suffered anymore until this past March – terrible sinus infection (which all my normal ‘cures’ did nothing for, so since the root canal – one bad sinus infections and 2 diverticulitis issues (all in 1.5 yrs since the root canal).
It makes me suspicious, and I am considering having it removed. Just wondered if anyone else had any thoughts on it. Thank you! If you have any literature, don’t hesitate to recommend.
Wow!! I have been inhaling all your posts as I have decided to take matters into my hands and alsp purchased your recommended products! I have looked into research around zinc hydroxyapatite, in studies compared to fluoeide toothpaste and have been using a hydroxyapatite toothpaste for the past 6 months or so. I am very impressed by the research and can say myself, it’s been great.
Thank you for sharing your positive experience! Keep up the good work! 🙂
Thank you! 🙂
Which brand of toothpaste are you using Lena? And great news!
We are using RiseWell!