A while back I posted about Jay “The Gut Ninja” Baluk’s success using my Probiotic Retention Enema.
Well, since then, both Jay and I have had a LOT of requests from people who don’t want to get my comprehensive Listen To Your Gut program, they just want Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema and Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol instructions.
Many of them are currently on the SC Diet and don’t really want to change anything other than their gut flora. So whilst I feel that healing digestive disorders needs to be wholistic, I also feel that each of us needs to be in charge of our Healing Journey.
So, In that spirit, I am making these two key protocols available on their own, without having to buy the complete program.
So, just click here and I’ll send you both Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema and Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol, in E-book format, for only $4.95
For those of you who haven’t heard about these protocols before, here’s what each of them does:
Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol
This protocol is based on Inflammatory Bowel Disease being an infectious disease (or having an infectious component). Think of how often gastroenterologists prescribe antibiotics like Cipro and Flagyl/Metronidazole – sound familiar?
There are two ways to eliminate infectious microorganisms: Antimicrobial drugs or substances, or high doses of probiotics. Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol is unique in that it combines the two methods, using 100% natural substances, for maximum effectiveness in both eradicating infectious microorganisms, maintaining a healthy bacterial flora during antimicrobial supplementation, and maintaining a healthy gut environment ongoing, for continued long-term health.
This 3-Phase protocol is designed to eliminate infectious microorganisms (like mycobacterium, fungi, bacteria, yeast, viruses, parasites, etc.), provide a moderate level of detoxification, and restore beneficial gut flora. By healing the infection we also heal inflammation. Other supplements referred to in my Listen To Your Gut book (such as MucosaCalm, George’s ‘Always Active’ Aloe Vera Juice, L-Glutamine, etc.) are then used to heal ulceration, bleeding, and repair the intestinal wall and mucosal lining.
Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema
This retention enema, which delivers very high dose probiotics directly to your colon (and lower part of your ileum) can provide dramatic healing results. As the name suggests, this is not a cleansing or flushing enema, but rather it is an implant or retention enema – where the goal is to hold the mixture in your colon until the liquid is completely absorbed.
Many people use Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema during severe inflammation and bleeding for quick healing, whilst others prefer to wait until things have calmed down a bit and they’re tolerating the probiotics well orally first. You really have to just follow your own body wisdom (intuition) on when would be best for you. Even people who have not seen great results from oral probiotic supplementation (it takes longer and can be more difficult to colonize via oral supplementation) see significant symptom clearing following this retention enema.
The Sydney Colon Clinic uses high dose probiotic retention enemas to stop colonic bleeding. However, in some cases (where the body has lost tolerance to all bacteria) it may exacerbate the problem. So I prefer to go on an elemental diet (to provide bowel rest) then use Jini’s Healing Implant Enema (retention enema), George’s Aloe Vera and MucosaHeal to stop the bleeding. If bleeding is only from the rectum, then no problem, probiotics at any time are fine.
Enjoy!
Jini
Have you had any experience with E. coli Nissle 1917 (Mutaflor) (studies done in Germany showed equivalent effectiveness to 5-ASA in ulcerative colitis)? Thanks.
Really? This is all news to me. please share more.
Hi Jini-
Thanks for all the great information on the probiotic retention enema. My main problem is constipation and a fissure which keeps getting split open everytime I have a hard movement– its a vicious cycle and I actually developed an anal fistula last year and had to have it surgically repaired. I’m trying to prevent this from happening again, but I don’t know what to do. I take probiotic supplements (Culturelle and Ther-Biotic Complete- cant do dairy based supplements) but am wondering if the probiotic enema would be more effective than the oral route. Any information would be helpful as I have been dealing with this problem for almost 10 years.
Kind Regards,
Jason
Do you have my Listen To Your Gut book yet? Because the answers to all your questions are in there: http://www.ListenToYourGut.com
But if your main problem is constipation, then you would be better off with Listen To Your Colon: http://www.HealConstipation.com as it too answers all of your questions above (but doesn’t go into fistulas).
FissureHeal is the product we use for healing anal/rectal fissures: http://www.FissureHeal.com
Thanks Jini,
I will order your book but probably after the holidays. In the meantime would you recommend doing the probiotic enema for constipation?
Kind Regards.
Jason
Yes, but I would do flushing enemas (with warm filtered water) first to clear out the fecal matter.
And since you’ve been constipated long-term I would take Magnesium citrate for a few days before and then the night before you do the enemas, have a cup of Senna tea – which will cause a clear-out in the morning. This is all stuff from the Listen To Your Colon book on constipation.
So you may want to wait until you have the book and get a good overview and wholistic treatment plan going…
Jini,
thanks so much for the oregano oil protocol. My question is’ “At what point does the oregano oil begin to kill the good bacteria?
Paula Locke
Jini,
I have been on the oregano and probiotic protocol for a few days and I would like to know if I am sabotaging the process if I drink filtered water that still has flouride in it.
Thanks,
Mark Pfister
I was sorta diagnosted with crohns 12 years ago and have had times of remission but over past few months I have had real bad pressure and nausted pain in upper rt. with alot of belching/heartburn, now in the past I have had pain in this location and it would settle in time. someone told me about align and how well it worked for him but he has merely IBS which is way different then what I have, I did start to have diahrrea (which I never had before)after I took my first flu shot in sept. the align seems to have helped that, but do you know if crohns can cause much of the sympthoms I am having? what is your feelings on the product align…can you please offer some suggestions? I feel never hungry and never want to eat because of the pain in this area. I take fiber and was taking jarrows brand of probitic but now am just taking align which I started a week ago, it has not helped with the pain at all. My bowel movements now are thin and yellowish sorta green could be from the align, just not sure..do you think the oregano and the probiotics you suggest would be better? how do you know whether to get the dairy free ones or not. does is matter or is it best to be on the safe side I just get all dairy free,,,I know I have tons of questions,,thanks
Kim – yes, there are many strains of E.coli which are beneficial. Hence people drink raw milk since breastmilk automatically contains E.coli. The other way to get it is by doing a fecal infusion – lots of info on this at my forum at:
http://www.jinipatelthompson.com/phpBB3/index.php
Paula – no one really knows, but a good guideline is to supplement with probiotics after 2 weeks of continual usage.
Mark – I think the protocol will still benefit you. Although, obviously, get rid of the fluoride as soon as you can.
Sylvia – Yes, get dairy-free to start with. And yes, the probiotics – especially in the final phase – will really make a difference in your upper GI problems. Sounds like you need Listen To Your Gut though – and make sure you do the Workbook (which comes on the CD-Rom) to develop a proper treatment plan for all your symptoms. Does Align or Jarrow fulfill the Probiotic Selection Criteria? If not, then they will not be as effective.
Thank you for the response. I did order the book and just started it. My laptop does not have cd rom capabilities, So I will have to wait to view the material on it. I Have started the probiotics. (2) of which are dairy free (1) is dairy. This is how it was sent to me. Will that still be ok? I just started so take 1/2 tsp of each before bed. earlier in the day I started the oregano as you state to take it. I also take (1) mucusheal on empty stomach and since most of my history is constipation I take the L-Glutime with food. Its all so overwhelming I hope I am doing the program right.. I have been taking the same fiber for a few years and it has worked good for me, however would you recommend the physiulln only? or is it ok to take what I have been. Oh one other thing, I read that I should take apple cider vinegar with baking soda for the heartburn, how do you feel about that? The Heartburn it has helped some but the belching is still there no matter what. please advise
Sylvia – I have no idea how you got 2 dairy-free and 1 dairy, unless you mistakenly ordered them that way. If they came that way in a Healthy Trinity Starter Pak (pre-packaged together) then the error is not yours and you should return them for a refund/replacement. Regardless, if you tolerate dairy, you will be fine with the dairy-based probiotics.
If your laptop can accept any CD at all, then you can use the CD-Rom with LTYG. Here’s an instruction pdf on how to use the CD and access the files on there:
http://www.listen2yourgut.com/reports/using-ltyg-cd-rom.pdf
One MucosaHeal is a very low dose, if you have active inflammation or ulceration, you need to take more. Follow the package instructions. Your other dosages look okay and you can increase the probiotics as you go.
If your fiber is all-natural and working well, then stick to it. Psyllium and ground flax seed are your other options to try if you wish.
The apple cider and baking soda remedy is a “symptom” remedy, to address the “root cause” of heartburn and indigestion, you need to normalize your bacterial flora – from your mouth to your anus. I don’t recommend long-term usage of baking soda as it will inhibit the good bacteria from colonizing effectively (it’s too alkaline).
all the best,
Jini
Funnily enough I’ve already read this, some while ago Jay told me about it and well I d/l’d it. still have Q’s though.. Good advice which has helped me some[ thank you ]
Seem to be having relapse just now , well I did over go at Solstice , nothing bad etc just lots of it..( am a bit underweight and keen to regain)despite being steady for a good while and thought I might switch probiotics and see .
change is as good as a rest …… ?
best,
~m
Due to a hypersensitive system (IBS-C),I have learned to take baby steps with any new supplement or protocol, so I took my first step with the Wild Oregano Oil by starting with only 1 or 2 drops. Administering it according to Jini’s water-in-the-mouth technique, I had no problem with burning. However, about 20 minutes later I had strange sensations along with a bit of nausea and pain/discomfort in my stomach. This was my own doing because I took it about 1 1/2 hours after breakfast, and therefore, not on an empty stomach as Jini recommended. I did this as an experiment because I have learned to be a bit wary of putting anything strong in my empty stomach. I am assuming that reaction is not because I cannot take it, instead of the fact that it really does need to be taken on an empty stomach. Right? Thank you for any response.
C. – could be due to food in the stomach, could also be due to die-off. Could be psychological (tensing up due to trying something new – don’t worry, we KNOW why – been there, done that), could be something entirely else. When I’m testing a new substance, I test it 3 times before drawing a conclusion. Take care and listen to your body.
Thanks for your response, Jini. Yes, so many possibilities of the cause. I had a bad night with abdominal discomfort and sick feeling – could very well be die-off, even from only 1-2 drops. I also took a Healthy Trinity capsule before bed which I have been doing for a week since reading your book. That, I think, contributed to discomfort. When I feel better, I’ll try the Wild Oregano Oil again and see what happens. I’m not scared off, only needing to tread lightly and consciously.
Hi Jini,I have been having problems with my lower abdomen,when i wake up in morning it hurts until i go to washroom,lots of gas which when passed feels better,diareaha,just feel cappy,started taking a pro-biotic acidophilus for digestive,taking oil of oregeno,pills have helped a bit but still fell sore.help
I seem to have a problem with candida, or that is what my nutritionist says – I was doing fine on an anti-candida diet – my problems disappear – like loose stools, insomnia etc.
But as soon as I eat any sugar or processed foods the loose stools along with pain in the lower left colon, and insomnia returns. I cannot seem to tolerate any processed foods – they give me loose stools and insomnia.
This all started after a bout with pnemonia and strong antibiotics along with many antibiotics over the years.
My question to you is – can candida cause the irritation in the lower colon? or maybe it is just a lack of probiotics for the colon.
Is there an enema for killing the candida in the colon?
Thanks
Yes Candida and/or an unhealthy gut flora (numerous pathogens) can cause irritation like you described. The protocols above are designed to kill Candida – along with following an extremely low sugar, low carb diet. The probiotics not only kill Candida, but establish a healthy gut flora that will be more resistant to infection ongoing. It is all in the ebook.
Hi Jini,I had campylobacter from chicken when I went to Thailand this summer and didnt take antibiotics straight away so I may have had it for quite a long time, I took 10 days of antibiotics 3 weeks ago, as I was having diorrhoeah and stomach cramps after food, and I now have been taking Natren bifido powder and oregano oil daily for just over a week. I definitely noticed some improvements at first but today and yesterday the diorrhoeah has returned and I feel ‘spent’ – achy, tired and look pale and worn out. I am hoping that it will get better over time but why am i not improving faster? and is tiredness and fatigue a symptom of the oregano oil working, or because I have had this symptom for ages now, could it be something more? Should I be taking more of the probiotics as I am only taking the bifido powder atm
Please give me your advice as it has been worrying me for ages now,
Thanks
Sarah – you need to follow the protocol EXACTLY as it is given in the ebook above or in Listen To Your Gut. And both contain instructions for managing possible Herxheimer (pathogen die-off) reactions. Good for you for getting on this and addressing it before things escalate.
Hi jini,
I have this problem since last two years. One the first year it was tounge used to have white coutings. Then the problem got solved slowly taking probiotics and oil of oregano then sudenly later i got heavy feeling and gas after eating usually. This symtoms comes on and off every month. Please advice.
Thanks
Yusuf – it could be any number of things – food allergies or intolerances, insufficient digestive enzymes, bad food combining, candida, etc. etc. You need to consult a naturopath.
Hi jini
Can we use oil of oregano with probiotics at the same time.
I mean same day but difference of time. Does oil of oregano
Kills good bacteria as well?
Hi Jini, I have proctitis, and following SCD. I bought WOO and Natren Healthy Trinity and have been doing Phase II(just to try it out). I HAVE STOPPED BLEEDING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 14 MONTHS. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I will move into phase I gradually. I’m so excited…..
Hi Jini. Is it safe to try the oregano and probiotic protocols while I’m still having GI bleeding? The slippery elm/marshmallow/comfrey enema or 5 weeks of Absrobplus hasn’t been able to stop the bleeding. I’d appreciate your advice. Thanks
Great to hear Reagan!
Hi Tamara,
I would love to answer your question and help you out, but unfortunately, due to liability reasons, I am no longer able give one-on-one, personal health advice.
You can try a keyword search of all my sites as it will likely give you some good ideas:
http://www.ListenToYourGut.com
– just enter your keyword(s) in the Google Search Box
Also, don’t forget that – as I write in The IBD Remission Diet – a small amount of bleeding throughout the Diet is not unusual. And in another place I write how Bianca James at the Sydney Colon Clinic has used high dose probiotics and retention enemas to stop bleeding.
All the best in your Healing Journey,
Jini
I would like to know how many billion probiotics does your Probiotic Retention Enema contains?
Hi Ankit,
This is Jini’s assistant responding as Jini is currently out of the country on holiday until the end of January. Jini’s probiotic retention enema uses Natren probiotics and the information you are looking for can be found HERE.
In good health!
Hi Jini, can MucosaHeal be taken while pregnant (second trimester)? I have severe burning in my throat (esophagus) and it started gradually after the intubation for a spine surgery 6 months ago. No one can see any problem, all blood tests are ok and the burning pain in my throat/esophagus is so bad that it feels like everythign is raw inside…After food, I constantly have to clear my throat (like every 15 secs for 2 hours straight, which makes it probably inflamed even worse).I dont eat any greasy foods, or spicy food and my diet is very simple, very low sodium. I was suggested that its from the acid in my stomach but I didnt have an endoscopic check…and then I got pregnant. I suspect that I have an erosive esophagus at this point and trying to find anything that might help me to heal it… Can I take MucosaHeal and do you think it might be useful for upper GI like in my case? I have seen so many doctors-they dont know anything it seems….
thanks!
Anna
Hi Anna,
Yes, you can take MucosaHeal whilst pregnant – the licorice has been deglycyrrhizinated, so it will not cause a rise in blood pressure.
I would take it on an empty stomach and sip it slowly over 5-10 minutes, so you can really coat the esophagus. Best would be to empty the capsules into George’s aloe vera juice for a double healing effect.
You may also want to take the Natren Digesta-Lac in powder form – which is commonly used for heartburn prevention. But take that at a different time to the MucosaHeal and George’s.
I’m pretty sure that will help you a lot. Please let us know….
Hey Jini,
My Name is David I am 37 and I have a wife and 4 kids I got diagnosed with crohns about 14 months ago. I suspect poor diet and I had been on a couple different antibiotics as the reason I got crohns, to make matters worse the dr put me on yet another antibiotic when i was in the hospital. I immediatly went to see an herbalist and I believe she has helped get me to where i am now which is to say I can funtion, although I still am not right. She put me on a very elemental diet mostly pureed foods, probiotics, slippery elm, l glutimine, vitamen D and several other supplements. It has all helped I believe but I feel like I have kind of just been staying pat for the last 6 to 8 months. My diarea went away relatively quickly and has not really been a problem, except for three times when it seems like i got a stomach bug and had stomache ache and yellow diarea for 2 or 3 days. I know my intestines are not healed. I deal mostly with fatigue and a wierd burning sensation in my bladder and my penis when ever i am bad also I get a strange twitching in my left arm only I have chronic sinus problems and alergies.
I recently bought your books, listen to your gut and the ibd remission diet and I have yet to implement any of your ideas yet. I discussed using the oregenal oil with my herbalist she immediatly scared me by saying i shouldnt do that she knew a person with crohns who tried that and thier crohns got way worse in fact she said it formed in thier throat as well. I guess I am looking for reasurance and and or any other things you think I should be trying, as I have been told several times during this year that my crohns is nonclassical. sorry if this isnt the right place or way to communicate with you but I am so desperate to get my life back.
Hi David – perhaps the person your herbalist is referring to used ESSENTIAL oil of oregano. If not diluted with olive oil (as all commercial preparations are), the essential oil of oregano can indeed burn your tissues – especially mucous membranes.
However, properly prepared wild oregano oil is both an anti-inflammatory and used to heal burns. Our own columnist, Nicole Paull, over at JPT Wellness Circle did an article (along with photos) where she used wild oregano to heal a 2nd degree burn on her neck.
It sounds like you still have an infectious component to your illness, so you should definitely look at addressing that. We did a great teleseminar with Dr. Carolyn Dean on Candida detox at JPT Wellness Circle (you received a month’s free subscription with LTYG purchase) so listen to that for substances that work well to clear pathogens (other than wild oregano). Or you should investigate Olive Leaf extract – another anti-pathogen that works well.
In developing Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol – my initial 30 testers all found the protocol efficacy was hugely improved (along with tolerance) by taking the high dose Natren probiotics nightly. But again, if you do it, you need to follow it exactly and only use the brands of oregano and probiotics I recommend. Thousands of my readers have now done this protocol and while one or two didn’t feel their body liked it, the vast majority have seen big improvements.
Your other option is to use another anti-pathogen and combine it with high dose probiotics and Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema.
You must only do what you feel is safe and right for your unique body. Listen to your own body – not mine or anyone else’s.
Jini
Thank you for your response, I think you are right about me still having an infectious componant. I did receive your book about ten days ago but I never received any info about the things I was supposed to receive with the book, the ebooks and consultations and such. I tried calling that number on your websites probably 3 or 4 times now with no response any idea what I should do.
Hi David – I checked with Justin, apparently he has been playing phone tag with you and he wonders if you’ve been checking your email? I have given him the email you used to post on this blog here, so perhaps that one is better for you? Regardless, you can get in touch with Justin and he will sort things out for you at: service @ holistichealthshoppe.com
Hi Jini, I posted here a couple of months back saying that I had campylobacter, I just wanted to ask your advice now.
It’s taken about three months for me to get over the initial diarrhoeah etc caused from the campylobacter, but now my symtoms have changed – I went to see a naturopath and he put me on an anti candida diet which I started 2 weeks ago and need to continue for several more weeks. One of my symptoms was tireness and fatigue after any sort of exertion, which can last several days, which he thought was adrenal fatigue caused by the stress on my body after campylobacter. I’m on a no sugar or yeast diet at the moment to reduce any stress on my body.
Another symptom was bloating after food, and water retention even after drinking just ,2 cups of tea straight after oneanother I retain the water for hours afterwards, it is uncomfortable. My digestion has improved however is not fully better yet. He put me on supplements to starve the candida – so far, i”m taking garlic tablet daily, 1000mg, Pan d’arco tea daily with coconut oil in it for its health benefits, grapefruit seed extract up to 800mg daily, and am also taking a probiotic (I have several different brands, currently i’m taking Lamberts 10x gold probiotic which has something like 10 billion bacteria per capsule, I take one daily after or before food. I’ve only been taking this for 3 days so far though.
The thing is, I don’t know what you think of all these supplements i’m taking..are they going to help a lot? And I also don’t know whether I need to follow your protocol – I tried taking the wild oregano oil three months ago but stopped, and am doing it again currently. I took 5 drops on my tongue the other night and woke up feeling really ‘hungover’ all day, though I had not drunk any alcohol. So today and yesterday I only took 3 drops once or twice a day – I now have a white coated tongue, with cracks up it which I did not have 3 days ago, and i’m wondering whether it’s due to the wild oregano oil effects?
Do you think I should carry on taking wild oregano oil (5 drops 3 times a day?) because it will get rid of the candida?
Thankyou in advance for reading this long message,
I’m turning to you because you clearly know your stuff about this and I hope you can help me get over this, I am only just 22! this thailand trip was SO not worth all this hassle it has caused me. Sarah
Sarah it looks like you’re taking 4+ substances that kill pathogens (yeast, viruses, bacteria, etc) so you are no doubt experiencing a strong die-off effect. To reduce the die-off symptoms, scale back dosage or frequency.
At some point, you should get your hormone levels checked. Thyroplex is a great product for hormones:
http://tahomaclinicblog.com/are-you-running-on-empty-thyroid-deficiency-syndrome/
Ok thanks jini,
Why do you think I need my hormones checked though? I definitely feel my hormones are out of sync since then..
Hi Jini,
Really urgent question to ask you as I’ve just had a really horrible experience of food poisoning again yesterday and today, and I have no idea if it was caused by the food I ate as my friend and I had EXACTLY the same food to eat over the past three days and she is fine. The only thing I can think of is alcohol..
On friday night I stupidly drunk more alcohol than I should have done considering my recovery from what my practitioner thinks is candida, My friend was visiting and I thought that I had healed enough to handle it. I threw up on saturday morning, and today and yesterday I have been suffering from extreme diarrhoeah – mainly just water passing through, and nausea all day without being able to be sick. My bowels and stomach keep gurgling too. All i’ve been able to stomach is porridge.
I don’t know if this is related to the alcohol from friday night or whether I actually got food poisoning again – which I’m finding it hard to believe, 3 times this year what is wrong with me?!?!?
I feel like anything can triggor food poisoning – about 3 months ago I got it from (I think) watercress that wasn’t washed properly and it lasted 2 days too. Why is this happening to me, I thought by now my intestines would have been healed seeing as I’ve been doing the oregano oil and probiotics protocol for about 5 weeks now.
Thanks,
Sarah
Sorry I forgot to ask you, do you think I could have some sort of disease like Crohns, or a parasite infection? Also I have been taking the wild oregano oil 6 drops per day on an empty stomach, as well as taking very high strength Lamberts probiotic tablets and Natrem bifido powder daily too. Should I be just taking the wild oregano oil without the probiotics, though for it to work?
You use the wild oregano to clear pathogens, THEN you have to go on high dose Natren probiotics for 6-12 months to establish a healthy flora – one that is capable of protecting against pathogens.
If you can swallow pills, use the Healthy Trinity 2x/day for 3 months, then 1x/day for a year.
Ok thanks for explaining the stages,
Sorry aren’t you allowed to answer my other questions on here? If not I won’t post long questions anymore..How long should I use the wild oregano oil for before the probiotics?
No, sorry Sarah – cannot give personal health advice on the blog. Best to consult your naturopathic or integrative medicine doctor.
Your question of ‘how long’ is answered in the document and in LTYG. (basically until infection is gone, but you may need to cycle on and off several times)
ok – I am just reading through the LTYG booklet again, but am still confused – your wild oregano protocol says that to eliminate pathogens, you need to take 10 drops 3-5 x a day until the infection is healed, but then it says you MUST take the probiotics whilst taking the wild oregano oil,
but you said earlier “You use the wild oregano to clear pathogens, THEN you have to go on high dose Natren probiotics for 6-12 months to establish a healthy flora”..
what one should I be doing? I have been taking 5 drops of oregano oil daily only so far for about a month whilst taking probiotics.
Follow the instructions in the booklet: Probiotics once per day whilst on the protocol, then 3x/day after you finish with the wild oregano.
Hi Jini, sorry I don’t know where else to turn –
I’ve been having terrible diarrhoeah and nausea, and was sick two days ago, the diarrhoeah still won’t go away. It started on Saturday after I had some alcohol on friday night, or maybe ate something that upset my stomach though my friend ate exactly the same and is fine. I am just so worried that it is campylobacter again – my question is this – how do I tell whether I have actually got food poisoning, or whether it is just irritable bowel (which I have not been diagnosed with) or intestinal dysbiosis? I don’t know whether I need to see a doctor and be put on antibiotics to get rid of whatever it is, or whether I should just follow one of your protocols to make it go away. If it is food poisoning related, I really want to sort it out instantly as before I waited and it caused more damage.
Sarah
Sorry Sarah, I absolutely cannot give personal health advice – you will have to read through my stuff, do your research and make your own decision. Or, see a naturopathic physician who can help you devise your protocol.
Hi Jini, My daughter has UC now for 6 years she is 25, we have bought Listen to your you simplify it for usGut, and have implemented the Absorb plus shakes, but are a little confused about how to start the probiotics regime. Could you simplify it for us?
Therapeutic probiotic dosage is minimum 7-10 cfu per day.
To avoid the Herxheimer (die-off) effect, start slowly and gradually work up to full dose of 1 tsp of each Natren powder, 3x/day.
Hey Jini,
My Name is David I wrote you about a month ago. I am the one who has the herbalist who is very resistant to the oregenal oil, she is also very critical of your probiotics. My problem is fear because she is the one who started me on the path of restored health I am afraid to do anything other than what she says, she has me on hmf powder and a very strict diet. I feel she helped me but about eight months ago i feel I peeked and from there on out it has been a roller coaster ride of, not to highs and not terriblly lows but never any different from that pattern. I believe in my heart i have something in my body that needs to be killed some type of pathagen or bacteria. I just dont want to go back to how sick I was when all this started almost 16 months ago. If it is true that i only have mild crohns why is my body not balancing itself out.
David – why don’t you approach things from another angle and address your emotional state FIRST. If you are not the authority over your own body and your highest trust is not in yourself, but in some other person – this is not a good situation to be in.
So start from there and start exploring what you need to do, develop, research, heal etc. to get back in touch and trust with your own body. Craniosacral Therapy (with an advanced practitioner, Level !! or higher), and EFT are good therapies that can help a lot in this process.
Hi Jini
My names Emma, I’ve been on your elemental diet for 2 weeks now. I started taking the wild oregano oil followed by the probiotics in the evenings 3 days ago and I’ve been having a lot more diarrhoea and stomach cramping. I’ve also started bleeding slightly, is this normal? I have just come off pentasa so do you think that might be the reason if not the oregano oil?
Jini, if I take 4 prescription drugs not related to intestinal disorders
can I still take Wild Oregano Oil?? If so at what dosage?
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I’m in phase 1 of the wild oregano supplementation protocol. In your book “listen to your gut” ( awesome I might add ) you mention it could take anywhere from 2weeks – 6month to kill the pathogens? What lets you know the WOO has done its job, and its time to move onto probiotics 3/day?
You just have to use your symptoms as your guide – unless you are having regular stool tests done. In the case of MAP though, it only shows up through RNA/DNA testing – but it’s very hard to find a lab who will do that.
So again, you just have to stay tuned to your body and go off and on the wild oregano oil protocol as needed. Listen to your gut! If in doubt, do 3 weeks on the wild oregano oil, then move to probiotics. If you find your symptoms escalating or coming back after a few weeks or months, go back on the wild oregano protocol again.
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hi jini
would just like to ask have you any thoughts about enteric coated oregano oil, would this be better than taking drops ??
Hi David,
If you aren’t able to tolerate taking the oil in liquid form (i.e. too spicy or just not keen on the liquid) then you can certainly use capsules instead but it would certainly not be better.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Hi I am taking the wild oregano oil. Everytime I do my throat hurts and my tonsils swell. Does this mean it is working? It happens everytime I take it. I take it with water so it doesn’t burn like you have suggested. Any suggestions. Thank You. Jennifer
Hi Jennifer,
You may want to try further diluting the wild oregano oil as the symptoms you describe aren’t normal. If you experience the same thing with a higher dilution then you may want to try capsules:
http://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/north-american-herb-spice-oreganol-p73-60-gelcaps/
Alternatively, you could try using olive leaf extract instead. Jini recommends it for people who aren’t able to tolerate wild oregano oil and it has some of the same properties:
http://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/natures-answer-oleopein-olive-leaf-extract-2-fl-oz/
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
I have been taking the Joy of the Mountains Wild Oregano Oil along with Natren Healthy Trinity before bed, and have seen a significant reduction in bloating. I would like to try the probiotic retention enema. Should I wait until I am done with the Wild Oreganol Oil before I try the retention enema?
Hi Roger,
No, you can continue to take wild oregano oil but you may want to space out the enema 12-24 hours after your last serving of wild oregano oil so you don’t waste the probiotics.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
My daughter has been on the ibd remission diet for a week now. She currently is in a flare, but has not been hospitalized or started on prednisone which we attribute to the diet. She was diagnosed with Crohns a year ago with an anal vulvar fistula which has left her with a compromised rectal muscle. She cannot hold an enema at all. I make probiotic suppositories with golden salve and probiotics rolled in parchment paper then frozen. Also
suspecting an abcess I made them with oil olive and oregano oil and coconut oil to help it solidify. Is the coconut oil ok to use? She also was diagnosed with ms in the past 6 months. I suspect the diet will also help that. She is on tysabri for the ms. Any natural suggestions for the ms?
Hi Karen,
As long as you’re using organic virgin coconut oil with no unnecessary additives, it should be fine. Regarding the MS, I wish we could help but I’m afraid we do not have an answer for you.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Hi
I started the WOO protocol about four weeks ago, and until one week ago was feeling great on it – formed stools, improved energy and mood. However, a week ago diarrhoea came back with a vengeance – loose and urgent. It feels to me like I have a bug, rather than a flare up of Crohns, and I’m not sure what I should do.
I am still in Phase 1 of the protocol and have only introduced Bifido Factor so far. I had been taking about 5 drops of oil 3 times a day, although have increased that to about 10 drops 3 times a day in the last few days. Do I need to add in the other probiotics at this stage? Is what I’m experiencing to be expected?
Many thanks
Jenn
Hi Jenn,
If you feel like you have a bug, you may want to just trust your gut and wait it out to see if it passes and the positive results you experienced for the first 3 weeks return. Otherwise, you may want to try taking the Digesta Lac and Megadophilus in addition to the Bifido Factor and see if that makes a difference.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
My daughter is sensitive to olive oil, sesame seed and flax and their oils. How can we do the oregano oil protocol when it is in olive oil? I can order a pure oregano oil through native American nutritionals and dilute it with hemp oil but the thymol is a higher percentage than recommended in your book, 48.5% thymol. Any suggestions?
You can use olive leaf extract to replace wild oregano if your daughter can swallow capsules (it is very bitter).
I’m also sure there are other places online you can order a pure essential oil of oregano from and then dilute as you discussed…
I would Google: essential wild oregano no olive oil
Hi……….
I stated using oregano oil protocol,but i am having issues with constipation on using oregano….along with probiotics
Can you please help me with this?
do i need to stop the protocol?
Thank you
Hi Josh,
It’s possible that you are experiencing constipation as a result of the protocol so you may want to scale it back (or stop entirely for a day or two) to see for sure. You may want to check out Jini’s constipation symptom page as her suggestions may allow you to continue the protocol comfortably if it is, indeed, causing your constipation. Here’s a link to that symptom page:
http://www.listentoyourgut.com/symptoms/34/constipation.html
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
I came across the information re:Absorb Plus on a forum. I have been trying to heal my GI tract of Ulcerative Colitis using recommended supplements from Natural Gastro Solutions (Intestinal Wall Solution caps, Curcumin Solution caps, Mucosal Lining Solution caps, Omega Solution softgels and Probiotic along with liquid Probiotics, Goat Colostrum, and Manuka honey and Geo’s Aloe Vera Juice)since the end of May. I got to thinking that perhaps my body wasn’t getting enough nutrition to heal as it should (I also started experiencing heart burn and occasional difficulty swallowing) so I started using Absorb Plus on Oct 14 thinking I’d use it for about a month to give my GI system total rest and make sure I got the nutrition necessary for healing. I then started to check out your website for what the best way to transition back to eating would be and decided to order Jini’s book on IBD Remission. I have not been able to read it all but after reading up to chap 3 I’ve been thinking maybe I should stay on the Absorb Plus shakes for another 3 weeks to ensure healing. Although I have only been drinking the shakes and I stopped the Manuka honey, I have continued to drink Water Kefir for the probiotics and am still taking the goat colostrum and of course all the supplements. My question is, am I hindering the healing by not stopping the Water Kefir and colostrum?
Hi Michele,
Jini specifically advises against combining products and protocols as it introduces more variables to the healing equation. Here’s a blog post with her reasoning:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/do-not-take-other-remedies-on-ltyg-program/
In short, it’s probably best to discontinue the kefir and colostrum while you’re using the Absorb Plus. For more information about healing your Ulcerative Colitis naturally, you also might want to check out Jini’s UC symptom page at the link below:
http://www.listentoyourgut.com/symptoms/13/ulcerative-colitis.html
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Hi Jini & Justin,
I realize that it takes 7-10 billion cfu of probiotics to be effective orally. I also realize that the retention enema contains more (24 billion cfu?). I’m working my way up to trying the enema and in the meantime have been syringing smaller amounts (2 billion) rectally daily on the advice of my naturopath (she didn’t stipulate a dosage). Is there a minimum dosage for rectal probiotic syringing/enema to be effective or is it still the 7-10 billion figure? Would that figure include what is being taken orally or not?
Hi Garth,
The goal of the enema is to immediately inundate the gut with probiotics and is considered a far more drastic measure than supplementing orally. That being the case, if you aren’t achieving the results you’re looking for by supplementing orally, we’d recommend using the dosages listed for the enema in the Listen to Your Gut book as you’re unlikely to get better results by using smaller doses than those with a syringe. On a day where you do the enema, you probably won’t take oral probiotics unless you are using them in the morning for some reason so you shouldn’t have to worry about cumulative CFU numbers. I hope this helps!
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
I am from India and need your help. There is no doctor who can treat my functional disorder of my ibs. Every time I go and consult a gastroentrologist they do all possible tests and inform all your tests are negative. They all end up telling it is because of stress and related to u r mind. I totally disagree with this. I need your book, ibs and ibd. How can I buy it from India, do you have any suggestions to me?
Hi Bharath,
Jini’s books are available in eBook form at the link below if you want to avoid expensive shipping costs to India:
http://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/books-and-ebooks/
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
It is a false assumption that Oregano oil kills good bacteria. Oregano oil does kill pathogens but it feeds beneficial bacteria.
Try this simple experiment to confirm for yourself the amazing intelligence of Oregano oil to discern between harmful and beneficial micro organisms.
While making yogurt at home, place ten drops, (that’s a lot of oregano oil!), into an eight ounce cup of milk and yogurt cultures while making up the rest of your yogurt batch as usual.
If oregano oil kills all organisms, including the beneficial ones, then the yogurt cultures will die and the milk will just be milk but if the oregano oil is discerning, then the cultures will thrive and you will have oregano flavored yogurt.
Not only are you going to enjoy a delicious savory yogurt but that oregano oil infused yogurt is going to far outlast the other yogurt batch because the oregano oil is going to continue to feed and preserve the good yogurt cultures while destroying any pathogens that would typically spoil the yogurt. I left my oregano oil infused yogurt in the fridge for month and it was as tasty after one month as it was the day I made it.
Wow Gary!! I love that. I’m not making yogurt lately, but when I do, I will try this.
If anyone else does Gary’s test, please let us know your results!
I’ll try this and let you know what happens. Unless the oregano oil is emulsified into the yogurt, is this test an accurate indicator of this?
I realize there is a lot of difference between test tube and someone taking 10 drops of oregano oil daily.
Jini, what do you think of Elaine Gottschall’s explanation of why we should NOT use aloe vera juice, copied here (and do these reasons apply to George’s?):
Can someone remember why Aloe Vera juice is NOT recommended for us?
Deborah writes:
It contains a very powerful carthartic, anthroquinone, which naturally would be extremely irritating to the gut, to say the least. Even in products with the anthroquinone removed, one doesn’t know if it’s completely gone, whether traces remain, what was used to remove it, etc.
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Lydia sends this in:
Re Aloes:”… a potent immunostimulant. …effects noted include the enhancement of macrophage release of TUMOUR NECROSIS FACTOR.. these effects can be quite substantial” from Textbook of Natural Medicine, Murray and Pizzorno, p582.
In response, Elaine writes: One of the LAST things you want with IBD!
Hi Marie,
The George’s brand which Jini recommends is 100% anthroquinone free and contains no preservatives or additives. We’ve had nothing but good feedback about the product and Jini has personally used it for years with no ill effects whatsoever. Here’s what she says about the George’s aloe vera:
Perhaps you’ve tried consuming aloe vera before, and found it caused diarrhea, or irritated your gut. This is likely because the brand of aloe you consumed contained either preservatives or the irritating, or laxative components of the aloe leaf had not been removed.
Aloe vera juice must have no preservatives (it should taste pretty much like water) and have all the irritating and laxative components completely removed.
It is useful for mild heartburn, healing ulceration, stopping mild bleeding, and helping to restore the intestinal wall and lining. For years I also took 1/4 cup daily as maintenance. Drink on an empty stomach. You can combine aloe vera with other gut mucosal healing products, but take 2 hours away from probiotics.
Hope this clears things up!
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
If I have undiluted wild oregano oil…what is the dilution ratio I should use in combination with olive oil?
Hi Trevor,
The Joy of the Mountains brand that Jini recommends mixes undiluted (aka essential) wild oregano oil with cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil in a ratio of 1:3. If you intend to use the oil you have with any of Jini’s protocols, this is the first dilution you should do.
Then, if any of the protocols talk about diluting the wild of oregano further, you would use the already-diluted-3:1 batch as the base and dilute from there according to the instructions. If you have any additional questions please feel free to reply here or email us at service@listentoyourgut.com
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Is it okay to take Natren’s Healthy Trinity while on this protocol? Or do you need to take the powders??
Hi Kevin,
Healthy Trinity can be used interchangeably in the oral protocol. Jini recommends the powders mostly because the price per serving is lower and they offer a little more flexibility because they are easier to use with the probiotic retention enema.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
My son (16) started the wild oregano oil protocol 3 days ago and stopped bleeding!! I am so very hopeful in Jeni’s treatment. Diagnosed with Crohn’s in April 2015. Thank you for the knowledge Jeni!!!
Hi Colette,
We’re excited to hear that the protocol seems to be working so well for your son! Thanks so much for taking the time to write in and please don’t hesitate to post here, call us at 888-866-7745, or email at service@listentoyourgut.com if you ever have any questions.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
I have just started your wild oregano oil protocol as described in your book last 2 weeks ago, I have IBS as well as UC. its seems to be helping but im confused because of the discomfort i feel all day, It pains in colon area and gas movent is also a pain now a days, the problems im facing are as if im going through a flare up…
Please advise as to how long will this happen to me while im taking the WO oil.
Presently Im taking 5 drops diluted twice a day along with a probiotic on an empty stomach as mentioned in your book.
Hello Shaikh,
The symptoms you’re describing sound like they could be the result of a Herxheimer reaction (a reaction to endotoxin-like products released by the death of harmful microorganisms that can happen when using antibiotic substances) which is common on this protocol. Generally the effect will go away after 1-3 weeks on the wild oregano protocol but you can always scale back your probiotic and wild oregano intake to the cautious/sensitive levels Jini outlines in her Listen to Your Gut book. For more info, check out pages 171-180.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Thanks Justin for your reply.
I started wild oregano oil protocol as described in your book on 17th of jan, and on 24th of jan i was all back to the same place where i had started, the diarrhea was back and all the symptoms of mucus and flatulence where back and all seems to be upside down, I need your advise as to how should i deal with my IBS_D and UC. Will the wild oregano oil and VSL#3 protocol take care of my problems or is there any thing else which needs to be added.
Hello Shaikh,
I’m afraid that we are not qualified to give you advice about your condition but one thing I can tell you is that we do not recommend using VSL #3 and that is not part of Jini’s protocols. For more info about that, check out the link below:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/is-vsl3-a-good-probiotic-supplement/
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Thanks Justin.
Can please help me heal my IBS-D
this is were all my problem starts,
Hi Aarif,
The best information we have about healing your IBS or IBD naturally is in the Listen to Your Gut book that you purchased. The only thing we might suggest at this point, based on what you’ve shared, is that you may want to consider swapping out the VSL #3 for Natren probiotics if you aren’t happy with your results. If you have questions about any of the protocols please don’t hesitate to ask.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Thanks justin
I have been doing wild oregano oil protocol for some 15days. as mentioned in ebook which i perchased.
It has been working and im feeling that Herxheimer reaction which is not comfortable, also i have been noticing that i get severe acidity which causes headaches, i cant take pain killers to counter the headache, as it causes D and more bleeding. Please suggest a suitable remedy so that i continue with the protocol and get better soon.
Shaikh Aarif.
Hello Aarif,
You may want to consider trying white willow bark rather than normal pain killers for the headcahe:
http://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/natures-answer-white-willow-with-feverfew-standardized-60-vegicaps/
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
jini, your oil of oregano protocol states that it is just as strong as vancomycin so my question is ,”with prescription antibiotics you have to watch the impact on the liver ,is that the same watch out that you would have to have with the oil of oregano”?
Hi J,
We aren’t aware of any potential liver issues resulting from the use of wild oregano oil as long as you use a brand like Joy of the Mountains which minimizes the thymol content to 2% or less.
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer care
Hi jini
I just want to know about my proctitis issue.
I find bleeding at the end of the every bowel movement.
I dont have constipation, as i am always dealing with IBS_D.
Please advise me some remedy to cure my proctitis and stop the bleeding.
Because of this i always have a feeling of incomplete bowel movement.
I am unable to control the urge as the rectum part is always painful and sensitive. I have 5-6 BM every day, I have tried oil of organo with the dropper,as mentioned in your ebook, but it seems to irritate that portion rather than healing.
Please advise.
Hello Aarif,
The best information we have about dealing with proctitis is at Jini’s symptom page for that here:
http://www.listentoyourgut.com/symptoms/25/proctitis-or-rectal-infection.html
Since you mentioned that you have tried the syringing protocol, you may want to take steps to address your IBS-D first as it sounds like that may be adversely affecting your progress with the proctitis healing. If you haven’t already, check out Jini’s IBS symptom page at the link below:
http://www.listentoyourgut.com/symptoms/15/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs.html
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Is it okay to use the suppositories in your protocol for healing internal hemorrhoids along with Jini’s Wild Oil Oregano Protocol? I am having issues with mucous and bleeding as well as occasional pain on left side of colon and was diagnosed several years ago with mild Crohn’s and I also have internal hemorrhoids that I believe cause most of my bleeding as the blood is bright red and rarely in my stool. So I would like to implement both protocols to address issues but wanted to see if that is something recommended or should I wait and do the Oil Protocol first then proceed with suppositories? Thank you so much for the feedback.
Hi Becky,
The wild oregano protocol is about improving your gut flora so you can certainly use that at the same time as the protocol for hemorrhoids. If you have any questions along the way about either protocol please don’t hesitate to ask!
Kind regards,
Justin
Customer Care
Jini,
I have been doing the WOO LGlutamine Nag Georges Aloe juice and the 3 probiotics daily for 2 months. In the beginning it seemed to help but now it seems I have gotten worse. I dont really know where to go from here.
Hello S.G.
A lot of things can effect healing, and sometimes it can take many months. Things like diet, other supplements, emotional traumas can all effect the healing as well. Jini has a great article explaining all this when healing get stuck, you can see here: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/why-am-i-not-seeing-results/
Please let us know if you have any further questions.
Kind Regards,
Rachel
Customer Care
Hi Jini,
Is it safe to do Probiotic Enema, FisserHeal (going to do it) and Fistula formula at the same time since I have Recto-virgina, Peri-Anal Fistula,Fissure(having this for 16 years), and external Hemorrhoid? Please kindly advise.
I am also taking Homeopathy medication and Synthyroid.
Thanks
Hi Gowri,
Jini’s HemorrHeal Suppositories contains powerful healing substance to heal External hemorrhoids, but ALSO dissolve and soften scar tissue in the rectum and you can alternate these with FissureHeal supps. for the best results.
Fissureheal is safe to use with Probiotic Enema (once you’re tolerating the probiotics well orally first), We recommend you insert FissureHeal just before you go to bed at night (ideally after you’ve emptied your bowels). This way, the healing herbs have the entire night to work undisturbed.
We can’t give you quick instructions here for how to implement Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema. The probiotic sections in Jini’s two books; Listen To Your Gut and Listen To Your IBS are over 30 pages long. This is because people with IBD (and severe IBS) need a good understanding of probiotics before they start dosing for the detailed information on what to look for, how to proceed, etc. to avoid the risk of triggering a flare. We do offer a complimentary Probiotic Report (in the PINK box at the top left side of the page) to get you started in this area of treatment. But for full and complete instructions, you really do need to get one of the books.
Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Kind Regards,
Cris
Customer Care
Hi,
My naturopath made me buy black walnut oil as anti-parasite,anti-fungal,… for my IBS-D linked with Candida and gardiasis. What does Jini think about that supplement? I’ve never read her mention it in the book or on the blog but I see that she nonetheless sells black walnut in the shoppe.
If she recommands it, should I do the Jini’s wild oregano oil protocol by just replacing oregano oil with black walnut?
Thanks a lot!
Hi Alexandre,
The herbs in Black Walnut Extract are likely too strong but may be fine for you if you only have IBS. Start very slowly and gradually build up to the recommended dosage.
Kind Regards,
Cris
Customer Care
Thanks! Should I use the probiotics in the same way it is described in Jini’s wild oregano protocol or can I take those along with the black walnut during the day?
Hello Alexandre,
Yes, you can do Probiotics enema and/or probiotics oral supplementation. For oral, it has to be taken completely on their own – 2 hours away from any antibiotic or anti-pathogen and 20 minutes before food, or 2 hours after food.
Kind Regards,
Cris
Customer Care
Great! Thanks a lot!
After doing the protocol of oregano oil and probiaotics, l-glutamine , omega-3 capsules
I ended up with a strange rash all on myleft side so I stopped everything.
Thank you for reaching out!
It is very hard to say what may be going on, as we do not know your full health history, etc. and we haven’t heard of that particular symptom occurring as a result of using the Oregano. It could be die-off (die-off rarely lasts long) or intolerance to other substance you are taking. You may want to stop taking it or the other for a while to see if either one seems to be causing the issue.
Kind Regards,
Cris
Customer Care
Hi there! Is it normal, after the probiotic enema, to experience gas and bloating the following day? These are not normal symptoms (ibs-c). Die off perhaps? FINALLY processing waste? Thanks!
Hello J,
Thanks for contacting us. It could be die-off (die-off rarely lasts long). Many people use Jini’s Probiotic Retention Enema during severe inflammation and bleeding for quick healing, whilst others prefer to wait until things have calmed down a bit and they’re tolerating the probiotics well orally first. Everyone’s pace is different, so you need to listen to your own gut.
Kind Regards,
Cris B
Customer Care
Hi Jini,
I have Crohn’s for 15 years and your book (along with a whole food plant based vegan diet) helped me achieve remission. I’m now taking a few drops of wild oregano oil every morning and probiotics at night for maintenance. I feel perfect, BUT whenever I try to stop the oregano oil in the morning, I immediately get intense diarrhea/gas that doesn’t stop UNTIL i start taking the wild oregano oil again! It’s like my body is addicted to it and it won’t let me stop. Have you ever heard of this happening?
P.S. I’m also wondering if I could use wild oregano diluted inside my nose? Me and my boyfriend have had stubborn blocked crusty and bloody nostrils for the past like 5 years and I’m thinking of trying it!
Thanks so much!
Hi Sarah,
Thanks so much for sharing your experience – Jini is delighted to hear that the protocols seem to be working well for you and it helped you achieved remission! It could be any number of things – bad food combining, candida, or a Die-Off effect when bad bacteria and yeast are leaving your body. If you like you can replace Oregano oil with 2 capsules of olive leaf extract. Many people also find it very effective to alternate wild oregano oil with olive leaf extract and they maintain that this is more powerful since it doesn’t allow the microorganism to adapt to any one substance. And yes, you can apply Oil Oregano in your nose. Just follow Jini’s protocol HERE for Sinus Infection.
Listen to your gut and do what you feel would be best for you. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Kind Regards,
Cris B
Customer Care
Jini, I have recently purchased your ebook Healing guide for GI infection and have begun the WOO and probiotic protocol. In the book you mention properly diluting oregano essential oil but do not provide dilution ratios. What ratio is recommended for this protocol (adult)? I am currently using a capsule product that, while probably fine-I’m seeing and feeling results in as little as 1 dose of each (2houra apart) overnight. However, I would like to switch to a known, trusted essential oil source I have used for some time, Plant Therapy.
Regarding your concerns with probiotic mixing and competing of strains, I understand it to an extent but also know that experientially, I’ve had high quality raw probiotics effect clear, positive results for me-normalization of frequency1-2 vs 3-5/day and consistency of stooling with much improvement of ease at stool-straining to initiate obvious need for movement despite lack of constipation, impactment, or unusual firmness of stool… so this leaves me confused. The product I’ve used has been the Garden of Life Raw 5-day replenishment formulation-500billionCFU’s per daily dose. Obviously, one needs more than 5 days of replenishment. I have used their encapsulated Raw daily probiotics, 85billion CFU’s daily, beyond the 5 days and honestly believe, due to my frequency of stooling, 3-5x daily though solid
and of appropriate normal consistency, the capsules are likely not opening adequately or at all, as you suggest. I feel that perhaps simply opening the capsules would produce the desired results but am still somewhat curious of your theories of competing strains. Do you have any feedback or comment in this area?
Hi Natalie,
Thanks for contacting us here. It’s a good idea to start with lower amounts or lowered frequency and then build up over time. For example, start with half the dosage of wild oregano oil (3-5 drops, 3x/day, then gradually build up, or take once or twice per day to start, establish tolerance and then increase to full frequency and dosage (10 drops, 3x/day. Also, in Jini’s protocols, she’s not talking about the pure, essential oil of oregano (which should never be used directly on skin, or internally). She is talking about commercial brands of wild oregano that are already mixed with olive oil.
Other brands of Oregano like Oregano P73 capsules is diluted at 1:1 which means it is 50% wild oregano oil and 50% olive oil. The Joy of the Mountains product uses a 3:1 dilution so that one is 25% wild oregano oil and 75% olive oil. So the oregano in capsules in some brands is twice as strong as the Joy of the Mountains wild oregano oil so please keep that in mind when using it with Jini’s protocols.
For Probiotics, Live bacteria do not “play nice” together. Symbiosis is not common to bacteria. Antagonism is more common. Strains that are mixed together fight for survival and may inhibit one another and decrease each other’s growth, thereby decreasing health benefits. Blends of probiotics should be made so that each strain of probiotic is kept separate from one another.
That’s why Natren mixes a maximum of ONLY three organisms, and uses their own unique scientifically tested technology to micro-enrobe each organism in a protective oil matrix delivery system to keep them separate and non-competitive while the powdered products are protected with the intrinsic supernatant, part of the original nourishing and protective culture medium, which provides a natural buffer against gastric acid.
Natren is the only brand that Jini recommends and uses through years of research and experience and the only one with all the requirements (probiotic strain selection, manufacturing, storage, and other factors effecting potency and efficacy). You can have many strains of bacteria in a product, but if they are not the right kind, they won’t help you. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Kind Regards,
Cris B
Customer Care
Hi Jini!
I am about to start the wild oregano oil protocol and I am confused about knowing when the infection has gone and I can move from phase 1 to phase 2 of the protocol? I understand that my crohn’s is very likely to have an infectious element but I am not sure which kind of infection I have, although I did self-test positively for Candida, but I don’t know how mild or severe… Do you have any recommendations about how I can judge how long to stay with phase 1 and when to move onto phase 2?
I would also like to start the oregano oil protocol for fistula.. would you recommend doing them at the same time?
Thank you so much for your wisdom, support, strength!
Hi A,
Thanks for contacting us here. Anal fistula is an infection. So once the fistula have healed completely, then you move on to Phase 2. And yes, you can do Oregano protocol and Fistula (Syringe) protocol at the same time. Also note that Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol is NOT just wild oregano – the combination (and timing) WITH the probiotics is key.
Kind Regards,
Cris B,
Customer Care
Hello,
I am really interested in the products that Jini has for natural healing for the intestine, but I’m not sure where I should start. I have Mild/Moderate Crohn’s, but my flares are located in my ascending and descending parts of my colon and my sigmoid colon and rectum. I’ve just been having some discomfort since July of 2017. No bleeding, but the occasional passing of mucous. Should I try the oregano oil protocol and the enema or should I just try to heal by using the mucosaheal? I feel kind of overwhelmed. Please help!
Thank you,
Mariah
Hi Mariah,
Thank you for contacting us here. Since you have mild/moderate crohns, your approach might vary depending on the severity of your symptoms. But if you’re on flare, it’s best to stick to only liquid nutrition for the entire duration of your flare-up while doing Oregano to get rid of disease causing bacteria, and repopulate the gut with good bacteria using Probiotics. We recommend getting Jini’s book Listen to your Gut If you’d like to immerse yourself in a ton of information ASAP. This book outlines how Jini healed her own Crohn’s disease and details out several protocols. And after reading it, you’ll have a good idea of whether you need/want to embark on an elemental diet, or not.
Kind Regards,
Cris B
Customer Care
Hi Jini
I have been diagnosed with IBS and since then have been trying your protocols with wild of oregano 3 times a day, mucosal heal, and natrens probiotics at night.
Im into my 3rd week and have been seeing some significant improvement. However, I feel like I’m loosing weight and others tell me this as well. Could this be because of any of the natural supplements I’m taking daily?
Don’t know if I should stop. Feeling better though. Hope you can reply. Thanks 🙂
Hi Edgar. Thanks for reaching out! Are you on an elemental diet as well, or eating solid foods? Jini recommends adding Flora Udo’s Oil to your shakes, or even just supplementing directly with the oil if you are looking to gain healthy weight.
It’s suggested to consume one tablespoon 1–3 times daily with meals, or added to your shakes. You can learn more about it here, as Jini has written a description of the product and her experience using it (under “Jini Says”): https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/flora-udos-choice-oil-blend-17-fl-oz/
And here is the entire line of udo’s oil products we carry: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/brands/flora
Also, here are a few blog posts Jini has written on healthy weight gain, which you may be interested in:
Healthy Weight Gain – https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/healthy-weight-gain/
How To Gain Weight Using Absorb Plus – https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/how-to-gain-weight-using-absorb-plus/
Easily Tolerated Weight Gain Shakes – https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/easily-tolerated-weight-gain-shakes/
I hope this helps!
Hello,
What is the best way to mix the WOO rectal syringing protocol? The anal stenosis booklet mentions a 7:1 ratio, 15-20 drops each time. Should I mix each “dose” separately or can I make the protocol in 1oz batches? And would you recommend a glass bottle and dropper or something else?
Thank you
Oh for sure you can make up a 1 oz or 2 oz bottle of the dilution – I usually use an old wild oregano bottle. And yes, use a glass dropper and glass bottle – a must for any essential oil, but especially wild oregano oil.
Hi Jini!. I may have missed this in the books or additional videos, but how many hours should I separate the wild oil of oregano before and after probiotics. Thank you!
Hi Kristina. No worries – Wild Oregano Oil (WOO) should be taken on a completely empty stomach, at least 2 hours away from probiotics. Many people will take WOO first thing in the morning, then take a probiotic either with dinner or just before bed.
I hope that helps!
Hello, my name is Katie, and my husband has been having a severe flare of his colitis/proctitis after an unfortunate need to take antibiotics for a week several months ago. (We know what we did wrong and what we would do differently in the future) He was having a mild flare for a couple months, then it got moderate, but then about a month ago it got severe and he has been losing weight, with bad diarrhea and bleeding. We discovered you guys, and have gotten Absorb plus as well as the supplements you talk about in your two books. (LYTG & IBD) we have also started on Natren probiotics and are working towards a full dose, (he’s at ¼tsp of each 2x/ day) and here is taking 3-5 drops of oregano oil 3 times a day. He’s on a half elemental diet of about 3 to 4 shakes a day (gonna try getting up to 5) and using the stop intestinal bleeding diet.
We have seen some improvement in his bleeding, it’s more intermittent now, but he’s still losing weight pretty fast… he doesn’t have much more to lose. Food is hard for him cause it’s bland, but he doesn’t think he could do a fully elemental diet. His energy level improves slowly, depending on the day, and he’s cramping less.
Our main point of confusion is how to go about the oregano oil. In LTYG you say wait until you stop bleeding to start, in IBD you say you should stay right away… so we waited to start, but he is still bleeding a bit.
So, I know you can’t legally give personally advice, and I’m trying to make my question vague enough that you can answer with as much detail as possible – but are we trying to do too many things at once? According to your protocol, are we doing it right? Or should we only be doing the oil then start probiotics later? You also say that you should take the aloe vera and mucosa heal right before bed, but then later say to take the probiotics right before bed, but they’re suppressed to be taken at least 2 hours apart, so how do we know when to take which supplement before bed?
We’ve both read the two books, but we’re still a bit confused.
We want to look into craniosacral therapy, but we live an hour and a half away (down several miles of bumpy unpaved road) from the closest one. The others are over two hours away. He isn’t in any condition to be able to take that kind of a car ride. So mind/body is probably going to have to wait until he’s in better physical condition.
We are also having a hard time finding a naturopath near our small community, but we are trying to find one to have a consultation with.
Also, if you have any advice on how I, his wife, can better support and help this healing process, that would also be greatly appreciated.
I’m not sure if you’ll see this since it’s on such an old blog post, but if you do, anything you can say would be great.
Thanks for sharing your story and research,
Take care
Katie
(P.S. my husband has found that he doesn’t like taking the mucosa calm, so I have discovered that the easiest way for him to take it is to empty a capsule into a tiny vessel, add 4 drops of water or aloe vera, then put it in a blob on a piece of wax paper and freeze it. Yes, it looks disgusting, but then he can take it like a pill, but without the capsule. Just in case that might be helpful for other readers 😉
Hi Katie – happy you found us! I will try to answer this as best as possible.
Most people will take Wild Oregano Oil first thing on an empty stomach, and it can be taken along with the aloe vera & mucosacalm.
Probiotics must be taken 2 hours away from any of the products above, so most people will take it with dinner or right before bed.
If traveling is an issue for your husband, I can confidently refer you to Jini and her family’s own doctor: Dr. Juliet Ghodsian! Dr. Juliet has read all of Jini’s books, is very fluent in Jini’s protocols, and has also healed herself of Crohn’s disease. She offers private and group sessions, as well as private energy healing sessions, remotely: https://listentoyourgut.com/dr-juliet/
She can definitely support you and your husband in the mind/body/energy piece of your Healing Journey – which is crucial to root-level, long-term healing.
I can also refer you to some other doctors and practitioners who are familiar with Jini’s protocols, below. But, please take the time to familiarize yourself with each doctor’s methods and perspective and know that while some of them have read Jini’s books and/or talked with her, they are entirely independent consultants with their own ideas and protocols: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/private-health-consults/
I’d also recommend you read the mind/body/spirit section of our blog. Root-level, long-term healing comes from healing ALL levels of the self. We must go into the emotional and spiritual aspects or messages of our dis-ease: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/category/musings/
I also want to say, what a neat way to take MucosaCalm – but hey, whatever works!
I hope all the above info helps. =)
Hi! I’ve been on the Absorb Plus elemental diet for the past 3 weeks. Two weeks ago I added the Wild Oregano Oil protocol (w/ George’s Aloe & MucosaCalm) and began Natren probiotics (I started with and am still exclusively on the Life Start before introducing the other 3). I started with 5 drops of WOO 1x per day for the first week and increased to 7 drops after a few days. I began with 1/4 teaspoon of Life Start and increased to 1/2 teaspoon 2-3x a day and the past 5 days or so I’ve increased to 1 teaspoon 2-3x a day.
I’ve been feeling great and my bloodwork showed a significant decrease in my CRP levels within just one week of being on Absorb Plus – it was in the normal range for the first time in years! The following week, after beginning the WOO & Probiotics, it ticked up slightly, but I still felt good.
I increased the WOO to 2x a day, about 7-8 drops, 3 days ago and suddenly yesterday I was in some pain (for the first time in 3 weeks). I have narrowing/strictures and so I’ve been hesitant to take the Betonite Clay. The pain I am experiencing is definitely related to the strictures as I can see/feel/hear the bulges getting stuck. Based on your experience, is this sudden uptick in pain (likely strictures narrowing further due to increased inflammation) due to a Herxheimer reaction from the increased WOO? Would a Herxheimer reaction cause increased inflammation? If so, is there anything I can do about it? If not, any other thoughts about what it could be? I’ve been doing so well and am so disheartened to be feeling ill again.
Hi RT – it could be that your body is adjusting to the increased WOO, however if it continues after a week (or if the pain becomes too much) I would drop back down to 7 drops once a day 0 as it might just be to much for your body! Listen to your gut. =)
Hi Jini,
I have cycled on and off your protocol and found success the first round but my issues from Colitis return every 3 – 6 months (had colitis for 15 years). One thing I notice which is really very uncomfortable is the intense itching around my anus when I do the rectally administered WOO. I implant a cacao butter/WOO suppository at night and by morning when I go to the toilet, I can’t touch the area without an onslaught of the most intense itching that just radiates and intensifies, I have to do everything in my power to resist as it leaves me with weeping around the crown from coccyx down the sides of my bottom cheeks (which dries up and gets very crusty). Could I just be allergic to WOO? Funny enough, I get the same indications when I take Liver Plex as well. Have you heard this from anyone else or experienced this intense itching yourself over the years? Could it be the bad guys going nuts because they don’t like being ordered to bugger off or Hemorrhoids getting inflamed from the volatile oils? I refuse to take anything prescribed again but as I can’t seem to get on top of the Colitis I am considering an FMT with Dr Thomas Borody but I can’t stand the idea of the 10 day dosage of vancomycin they give you before the FMT. I know I am in this state now due to heavy use of antibiotics when I was young.
Hi Lindy – I passed this on to Jini, and here is her response:
I first wonder why a wild oregano/cocoa butter suppository? I don’t think you would be able to get that much wild oregano to mix well with the cocoa butter suppository… So it could be that the cocoa butter is what is irritating and causing the issue.
If you suspect proctitis or you’re using the suppository to combat some kind of infection, then I would try just syringing wild oregano by itself. Follow the same procedure in the Hemorrheal e-book to either do a modified shoulder stand or the hemorrhoid position for application – allowing the liquid to drain into the rectum for ideally 5 minutes minimum. There are also instructions for finding a healthy donor, so that you can give yourself an FMT. And there are instructions online for how to do that. Just an FYI for that 😉
Thanks for getting back to me I really appreciate it. I have tried the Orégano oil syringed straight into the rectum as I have your book and instructions but once again the itching and soreness around the anus became too much so I had to stop and thought by putting in a suppository at night I might not feel as much of the itching and burning. I watched your video on making suppositories with SSKI and DMSO with Cacao butter so I tried the Oregano oil in cocoa butter as you did and it holds fine so it must be the Oregon oil that is the irritant as I have also made the suppositories with coconut oil and same reaction. I was just curious if anyone else had experienced the itching like me.
I will investigate any issues with my liver/pancreas/gallbladder when Covid restrictions are lifted as I have had tenderness and discomfort in those areas and very strange colored poo (streaked green and grey) green probably from the super food powder I have in my smoothie but the pale grey is a concern.
I think all the comments in your blog are an amazing source of feedback to others on their journey and sometime even the simplest things/comments can make a big difference to even one person.
Hi Lindy – hmm, then it may be the oregano oil after all that is not working well with you. I’d suggest to try making your cocoa butter suppositories with olive leaf in powder form instead of the oregano. You can just open up the capsules and mix them into the cocoa butter, so it will have the same effect – but perhaps your body will tolerate it better.
A hot castor oil pack all over your abdomen should help your organs at this time, as well. Hope this helps!
Also Lindy – here’s the link to the hot castor oil pack instructions: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/hot-castor-oil-pack-for-ibd-or-ibs-pain-spasming-bloating/
Hi, Can I take woo with l-glutamine together on an empty stomach in the morning?
Hi Pam – yes you can. =) Just make sure at least 20-30 minutes before you consume your first meal/shake.
Dr. Mercola has an article on Oregano Oil in his newsletter today. He mentions that people with high blood pressure should not take it. I have high blood pressure and taking Oil of Oregano has not affected it in any way.
Does that make sense to you? Here is a link to the article:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/09/28/oregano-oil-benefits.aspx
I take the Joy of the Moutains brand which I have purchased from your web shoppe.
Roger
Ah I finally found the statement you’re referring to:
“However, diluted oil should be avoided in women who are pregnant or nursing, and it should not be given to babies or children. People who have high blood pressure or a heart condition should also avoid using oregano oil. When taken internally, the taste can be strong. The diluted oil can be mixed with juice or honey or added to pizza sauce.”
He gives no data to back up this advice and I have never come across any data that states this either. My Dad (who’s had triple bypass and continual heart issues with 3 of his brothers dead from heart attacks) has taken it for 15 years now, when required, with zero issue. As you may know, I’ve also given it to all my kids and to a nursing cat who was dying – she not only miraculously recovered in a couple of days, but her kittens were all in superb health when the vet checked them 8 weeks later.
Is it ok to ingest dmso if you don’t have any intestinal stricture, If it’s such a healing compound what is the downside to drinking it? (Mixed with the aloe and juice etc) can it help heal ulcers in the colon?
Hi Anandita! When Jini first tested the protocol she had no intestinal issues whatsoever, but she drank the DMSO mixture as detailed in the e-book for two weeks. We don’t have any experience or feedback on how it would affect ulcers, but as one of our testers received a completely clear colonoscopy with multiple biopsies showing no signs of Crohn’s disease whatsoever there’s a good chance it could be helpful.
thats amazing, I have a rectal stricture (not intestinal) but A LOT of pain in my colon from UC. i’ve only been drinking DMSO very diluted for two days and it takes my pain and cramping away within 20 mins of drinking. I applied it topically too but maybe did it too strong so its irritated my skin so I’m giving that a break.
I just hope its not only a painkiller but also healing.
is there any information on how long I can take this for? I am not adding the potassium iodide – just a few drops of dmso, distilled water and colloidal silver.
Thankyou!
Hi Anandita – Jini did the protocol herself for 2 weeks. You should only be wary of long-term use (over 3 weeks) if you are including the potassium iodide, as it can affect your thyroid. But since you are omitting it, you won’t need to worry about that.
Hi Savannah – can you please let me know which of the E-Books has the protocol with DMSO that Jini drank for 2 weeks? (as per your comment to Anandita on ) Oct 15th?
Hi Lindy – absolutely! It is Jini’s Guide for Intestinal Strictures: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/jinis-healing-guide-natural-treatments-for-intestinal-strictures-ebook-by-jini-patel-thompson/
I had a question about the nano iron I ordered, just opened it and the glass dropper has turned orange almost like a rust color. Is this normal?
Yes that’s normal – iron is very staining, that’s why we advise you mix it with water and drink it down in one go – don’t swish it round your teeth, or it will stain your teeth. It’s awesome though – my Dad is 82 with multiple heart issues etc and his hemoglobin plummeted. So first he tried the iron the doctors prescribed (god knows why he listens to his docs more than me! LOL), and when it didn’t work at all he switched to the QuikPlus Iron and saw an improvement in 4 weeks. Let us know how it goes for you 🙂
Hello,
I would like to know what defines a flare. I was diagnosed with IBS for 2 years. My problem was lots of gas: my belly got really hard and I had painful spasms. Nothing else. Then last summer, I had what I consider a major flare. My symptons where heartburn (never had that!), extreme bloating, very painful spasms all day, that kept me up at night (for at least a week). I never bled, and I only get one to the bathroom (stools) once a day.
Medical tests followed this episode (blood count, colonoscopy, gastroscopy, etc.) and I was diagnosed with what seems to be Crohn’s in my small intestines. They saw inflammation on 6 cm near the ileum. Obviously the doctor wanted me to take medication, but because the report said « possible micro ulcerations », I thought I could take care of it with naturopathy. I changed how I eat completely, and was symptoms free for 5-6 months. My calprotectin even went back to normal (no more inflammation, I guess?)
After a week of intense stress, I got what seems like trapped gas, a tender tummy and light spasms. It seems to be reducing now. Is this considered a flare ?
Also, I have been having floating stools for as long as I can remember (at least 20 yeras). The only time they were not floating was for a certain period of time, after I took antibiotics. I purchased your probiotics and hope that they will help. I guess that the Wild Oregano will help too?
Thank you.
Hi A! Wild Oregano oil is great for helping to “Sweep” out all the bad bacteria, and supplementing with a potent probiotic is important to repopulate your your gut flora with good bacteria. Have you ever used a castor oil pack? This is great for assisting with bloating/cramping/spasming etc: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/hot-castor-oil-pack-for-ibd-or-ibs-pain-spasming-bloating/
Hi
I am was diagnosed with proctits in Feb 2020. I am following recommendation’s in Jini’s book.
I was in flare a month ago. Now I am fine.
Taking absorb plus
Is it better to take Oregano as enema or just take it by mouth.
Are there any instructions/video on Oregano oil enema?
Hi GN! Glad you reached out, and I’m so happy to hear you are no longer in a flare. That’s great news! Regarding wild oregano oil, Jini has a number of uses depending on your symptoms/issues. I recommend downloading her free eBook, What You Need to Know About Wild Oregano, here: https://listentoyourgut.com/woo/
You mentioned you are following the recommendations in Jini’s book – are you referring to her wild oregano protocol? For more usage info on WOO, I also recommend watching this video, Wild Oregano Oil – A Powerful Antipathogen, Antibacterial, Antifungal + MORE: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/wild-oregano-oil-a-powerful-antipathogen-antibacterial-antifungal-more-video/
Hi Jini,
Thanks for your great blog/ book. I’ve finally managed to wean off Pentasa suppositories for UC after 5 years using your WOO. A miracle!
I noticed that the gel capsules from The Joy of the Mountains brand works better than the other brand even the oil from TJotM seems to be less potent than the caps. Is there any reason for this?
My other question was about the probiotic enema. Would it be better if I do it once I reach to the 3week mark or wait until the infection and inflammation is gone? And when you say we should cycle on/off every 3-4 months does it mean I do the first and second phases and then start with phase 1 again? The bleeding has stopped though the inflammation is still there with gas and mucus.
Would you be able to make The Joy of the Mountains brand available at your AU shop because it often takes weeks to get the oil from Canada or the US. Thanks again.
Hi Arash – first of all, that is fantastic! Congratulations!
Regarding your question on wild oregano oil, I’m not quite sure! It could be that your body just reacts better to a more timely release of the WOO (since it is in a capsule) as opposed to straight oil – but regardless, if it were me, I would listen to my gut and continue giving my body what it prefers. 🙂
Regarding the probiotic retention enema, many people use it during severe inflammation and bleeding for quick healing, while others prefer to wait until things have calmed down a bit and they’re tolerating the probiotics well orally first. You really have to just follow your own body wisdom (intuition) on when would be best for you. Here are some more tips on using it: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/tips-for-jinis-probiotic-retention-enema/
Regarding cycling, are you referring to the cycling of antipathogens? Although we do not have Joy of the Mountains in our AU shoppe, you can find a guide to finding a potent brand (which may be more readily available in your area) in Jini’s eBook, What You Need to Know About Wild Oregano Oil, which you can download for free here: https://listentoyourgut.com/woo/
Hello Arash! I just wanted to add on to the info Savannah has already provided, as well as share my experiences with you.
When it comes to enemas (or anything, really), it’s best to use recommendations as a guideline. You really want to let your own body speak on what it needs! 🙂
For me, I started with only a few probiotic retention enemas. About 1-2 at the beginning of my journey, as I already was taking the Natren powdered probiotics orally.
Jini’s protocol mentions that doing at least 1 treatment of this is helpful while taking the oral probiotics. So, depending on your symptoms, you can do probiotic enema as little or as much as you want/your body asks for. You will probably need to do them more often if are NOT taking them orally as well, however.
My bleeding was a major factor, so I did 1-2 probiotic enemas and then focused more on Jini’s Healing Implant enema. This enema contains comfrey, which is Jini’s favorite wound healer and helped heal my ulcerations! The only caveat here is that it’s recommended to stop using comfrey root internally after 6 months. I took a month or two break from it to cleanse the liver, and then I resumed using it again – and continued to do so until the bleeding stopped. When it comes to enemas, this is the only “cycling” rule I can think of.
Jini says: If you’re bleeding from your colon, it’s best if you can do this enema once (or even twice) a day. Once the bleeding stops, do it every second day for a week, then every third day for another week, then once a week for a month. If you find your anus/rectum getting sore from the tube then you may want to discontinue or administer it less. As long as your bleeding’s stopped, Jini’s Healing Implant Enema is no longer crucial and you can move onto other colonic healing remedies like MucosaHeal or George’s ‘Always Active’ Aloe Vera Juice, if you wish.
You mentioned your bleeding has stopped and you have other symptoms, so if I was you I would do the probiotics orally and rectally as you said there is still mucus. This two-fold method gets them there faster.
Only with antipathogens like Woo/Olive leaf/garlic, you must cycle, but with the above stuff you don’t have to (besides the note on 6 months with comfrey) – so use what your body tells you.
Happy healing!
Hi Linsy,
Thank you for your comprhensive response. This is exactly the answer I was looking for re administering the probiotic enema. I just also ordered the aloe juice and hopefully this will expedite my healing process even further. Thanks again. Cheers.
Hi Savannah,
Thanks for your response. I now understand what I need to do re the probiotic enema. Sorry yes I was asking about going on/off antipatogens. Thanks again. Cheers.
I’ve been through all these Q & A ‘s looking for questions about diverticulitis which is one of your four problems listed on your book cover. (also have read your separate section on diverticulitis) but I have just received your book and found very little about this problem , I suppose because it flares up only occasionally for most people. But when it does, it can be bad and dangerous.
I have many diverticula, which many have, but when mine flare up, I’m prescribe antibiotics. I am nauseas when I take them, don’t want them!; so when I JUST found out about the WOO, I was thrilled. I recently had a colonoscopy and dr said I did have inflamed diverticula, though I had no symptoms. He prescribed antibiotics which I did take, but then saw your Wild oregano protocol on line. I ordered your book and WOO, took 10 drops 3X per day and probiotics at night for a week- still keeping up the probiotics. I’m fine now and hope to stay that way.
My two questions: Should diverticulitis be in the same category as IBS or IBD, as you rarely address that particular condition? And when should I use the protocol if not having symptoms? Also (oops #3), should I be on a maintenance diet including supplements most of the time to avoid getting infection?
I used to have a bit of IBS, but when I dropped gluten from my diet, ( except for using Eincorn flour occasionally, but mostly other forms of flour such as almond, etc.) it does not cause me problems.
Thanks so much for your research and help!!
Dianne, dianne@diannestudio.com.
Hi Dianne,
Thank you for reaching out!
From what I understand diverticulitis is in the family of inflammatory bowel disease although it just takes on a form, all gut disorders usually cause some type of inflammation perhaps just in different ways.
Great question on maintenance! With my U.C I maintain my diet and supplements so its anti-inflammatory at all times. I also incorporate the WOO or anti-pathogens every few months for maintenance. This is how I handle it now after a few years of hardcore treatments.
If I was you, I would continue on the treatments and protocols until all that inflammation is completely gone and then still adhere to a gut-friendly diet and supplements with Natren’s probiotics daily just to keep the bacteria/infection from recurring.
And listen to your body to make sure it has what it needs!
Here are all the resources I found on diverticulitis:
🙂
https://listentoyourgut.com/diverticulitis/
https://listentoyourgut.com/jinis-healing-guide-the-diverticulitis-diet-ebook/
Here is Jini’s exact protocol for diverticulitis:
https://listentoyourgut.com/wp-content/uploads/7.pdf
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/absorb-plus-helps-diverticulitis/
All my best! Linsy
Hello,
I’ve been on your OOO protocol now for a month, taking 10 drops 2-3 xs a day. I also supplement before bed with the Healthy Trinity probiotic with a snack. I also take George’s aloe and Mucoscalm. I’m really not sure what my diagnosis is since no doctor can give me a clear reason for my misery. I have had a bout with diverticulitis in 2020 but the last CT scan this past October 2021 did not show any diverticulitis. Another doctor said my bad bacteria is winning against my good bacteria, but no proper diagnosis has been made. How long can I take OOO before moving onto phase 2 of the protocol. I’m not noticing a huge difference in my symptoms. I guess I’m asking if OOO is safe to take long term? Thank you for your time and energy.
Hi Amy! Jini usually recommends staying on WOO or any antipathogen for as long as the infection, disorder ect. is there. It’s not meant to be taken every day for the rest of your life, however, with gut disorders especially it can take years sometimes to eradicate just one imbalance.
Ideally, you take WOO until symptoms and the disorder resolve, and then can go on WOO for maintenance once every month or once a year (whatever our body needs) to ensure a new infection doesn’t occur. In terms of phase two, make sure to consult your body on when you are ready. If symptoms are currently stable your gut may be strong enough for phase two. Its more about listening to the body rather than staying on certain protocol for X amount of time. So try to stay in tuned with your gut! I hope this helps. 🙂
Thank you for the info, Linsy. If I am getting new more persistent symptoms like lower abdomen pain/burning, would OOO cause that or maybe the healthy trinity? It wakes me in the middle of the night and then can’t sleep due to discomfort. Is it best to go back to the 3 separate powdered probiotics? I just spent the money to get the healthy trinity though. Thanks again for your help. I’m just feeling hopeless since I can’t seem to get any answers from doctors and it’s really affecting my life since I’m losing weight as well.
Hi Amy! It can be really tricky to know what is causing what reaction. Are you taking the powders and the Healthy Trinity, or just HT?
With the intensity you are talking about, I would try lowering your dosage of WOO, and if you still find this burning feeling persists it may be good to switch back to the powders until your body adjusts, then try Healthy Trinity again – whatever lets your body take a break for awhile from such a big reaction.
Make sure your detox pathways are open as well! If you aren’t detoxing properly that can often cause increased symptoms. Here is a blog post on detoxing: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/use-an-infrared-sauna-for-ibd-detox-healing-support/
With the pain, have you tried a castor pack? I use mine nightly and have found it very helpful for pain. You can make your own (instructions here): https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/hot-castor-oil-pack-for-ibd-or-ibs-pain-spasming-bloating/
Or we have a pre-made kit as well: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/products/original-organic-castor-oil-pack-for-liver-kit
Also may also want to consider a coach that is familiar with Jini’s protocols. I did one-on-one coaching with Dane at Crohns Colitis Lifestyle: https://crohnscolitislifestyle.com/about-us/
They have a upcoming webinar on April 20th that you could attend if you want to learn more: https://event.webinarjam.com/register/72/090qrfwl
Hi Amy, sorry to hear you are suffering – I believe a great deal of us can appreciate what a struggle it is to stay positive when you wake daily to the misery and nothing chances regardless of your great efforts. I have had similar experiences and the one thing that made a huge difference to me this time was elemental magnesium. 2 days after taking 700 mg a day all my pain, mucus, bleeding and urgency stopped 😍
I figured it was just one of those freak things that would work for a couple of days and then it would all be back and my joy would be replaced with misery once again but I have remained in remission. I am not taking anything else other than magnesium. This, of course is not going to work for everyone, but I knew nothing about magnesium deficiency (even from the multitude of blogs/research I had done regarding UC over the last 15 years) but magnesium supplementation has changed my life. I don’t believe that you can do any harm by giving it a go – apparently it has something to do with low hydrochloric acid causing magnesium deficiency. Don’t think that the tests used for levels of minerals in our bodies are very reliable. Anyway definitely worth a shot.
Thank you so much, Lindy. I will give it a try. I don’t have Ulcerative Colitis. No bleeding, thankfully. Just huge bloat, lower stomach burning/pain…and issues with bowels…and losing weight. Hopefully, the elemental magnesium can help.