In this podcast, health coach and yoga teacher Cate Stillman interviews me after she discovered my work during a search for help with scar tissue protocols and adhesions.
So a lot of the podcast is us discussing my protocols for reducing or dissolving scar tissue, and why surgery is not usually the solution.
But we also get into my personal journey, elemental diets, and how symptoms are actually messages from our subconscious, or higher self.
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In this episode, Cate Stillman interviews Jini Patel Thompson’s healing journey, which began with Crohn’s, and colon issues. They explore the challenges she faced with conventional medicine and the turning point when she discovered the Elemental Diet, leading to profound transformation. Throughout the conversation, Jini emphasizes the significance of intuition, body wisdom, and the metaphysical aspects of healing.
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Hi Jini,
I am at my wit’s end and I am hoping you can help me. About a year and a half ago, I started having problems with excessive gas and and bloating which have become worse over time. To compound the problem, when I move my bowels, it feels like something is choking off the gas and stool that are trying to come out; as if the opening isn’t wide enough, or something is getting in the way. This feeling has gotten worse over the past week, so now, not only am I bloated and uncomfortable all the time, but now when the gas and stool does come down where I can eliminate it, it’s hard to get out.
I have been to the doctor several times and had a consultation with a GI once, but here I am, still with two worsening problems that have made my life not much fun these days.
I am trying to manage things with probiotics to help with the bloating and MiraLAX to soften my stool, but I know that, over time, using MiraLAX every day will eventually make things worse.
Is there something of yours that you think would help with the gas and bloating? Would the Rectal StrictureHeal protocol be worth trying to fix whatever is making it hard to get things out? I have a GI consultation appointment in three weeks. I want them to do a Colonoscopy and Endoscopy so I at least can find out what the blocking problem is, but three weeks seems like an eternity given how I feel.
Does the StrictureHeal protocol involve a formula that you need to mix by hand? I am totally blind and it would not be easy for me to mix something like that on my own.
I know this protocol is experimental, but I don’t care. Fifty years ago, I had painful Glaucoma and the medical treatments at the time would have guaranteed me kidney failure later in life, so we found a natural doctor who put my Glaucoma into remission and completely eliminated the pain using nothing but herbs.
Please please help me.
-Herb
Hi Herb,
Thank you for sharing your situation with us and for these questions. Jini suggests several Natural Remedies for Gas and bloating.
1. One of them is taking Probiotics. If you’re constipated, you can take one capsule two to three times a day on an empty stomach.
2. Additionally, colonic massage can help move gas around and out of the colon.
3. Using digestive enzymes until you are able to build up your own enzyme production and get enough live enzymes from your diet can also be helpful.
4. Testing for food allergies and following the Minimize Gas and Bloating Diet (Chapter 3 of Listen To Your Gut) are also recommended to reduce and/or eliminate trigger foods.
In addition to the above ideas, Jini encourages you to do mind/body healing, set good boundaries, get plenty of rest and peace, and move out of a toxic living arrangement. You may find that your healing progresses rapidly!
If you’re looking for a product to help with stool softening and healthy elimination, we suggest looking into ColoneEaze-Move. This product doesn’t contain any chemical stimulants or laxatives. You can find more information about it here: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/powerful-herbs-in-coloneazemove-for-constipation-detox/
Regarding the Rectal StrictureHeal, please note that this formula is not pre-made, so if you decide to proceed, you might need someone to assist you in preparing it.
We hope you find this information helpful and wish you all the best.
Hi Cris. Thank you for this information. I have been taking a probiotic for about a year that worked okay, but not great. Then, about a month ago, I switched to the Align priobiotic for bloating and digestion. After about a week, I still had as much gas, but the bloating sensation was much less severe, so I could function better without being uncomfortable all the time. However, a few weeks later, the bloating sensation was back, and I’m back to being miserable again. I take one align probiotic in the morning. Do you think I should take more each day? Finally, I have a colonoscopy and endoscopy scheduled, but they can’t fit me in until October. Since I won’t know until then if I actually have a stricture, or not, should I wait for those test results before deciding which product of yours I need? Thanks again.
-Herb
Hi Herb, Natren is the only brand that Jini recommends and uses through years of research and experience and the only one with all the requirements (probiotic strain selection, manufacturing, storage, and other factors effecting potency and efficacy). First thing I would do is check the timing of the supplements you’re taking to make sure they’re not interfering with each other. Probiotics need to be taken completely on their own 2 hours before and after any other supplements. They must also be taken in high enough amounts to have a therapeutic effect (7-10 Billion CFU/ Strain based on clinical trials).
Are you taking Oregano? According to Jini, it’s critical to cycle the two to get rid of the bad gut flora while repopulating the gut with probiotics. Otherwise, the probiotics have to fight the bad gut flora for real estate, so to speak. If you were not using this approach, you’d definitely want to check out Jini’s Wild Oregano Protocol in her Listen to Your Gut book or her Gut Infection eBook (the protocol is in both).
We’re not medical professionals, so we’re unable to advise whether to wait on your results or not. However, to ascertain whether you are on the right track for your unique body, Jini encourages you to strengthen your intuition – the mind/body/spirit piece. Please read through these articles and open to developing this part of yourself – THIS is where true, long-term healing (and the wisdom for how to get there) comes from: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/category/musings/
Best regards,
Thank you, Cris. I have not been taking Oregano, but what you are saying makes complete sense, so I am happy to try it. I bought the Kindle version of the “listen to Your Gut” book just now so I can read about the protocol. Natren seems to offer several different types of probiotics. Can you steer me in the right direction for which one to buy? Thanks for being so helpful and patient with me. -Herb
You’re so welcome!
Jini wrote a simple-to-follow guideline on probiotics here: https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/i-want-to-take-probiotics-where-do-i-start/
She has recently been discussing probiotics with Natren founder, Natasha Trenev, and addressing questions as well as many other topics. You can watch her Q&A videos by clicking on the links below:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/microbiome-indigenous-wisdom-meets-science-fermenting-foods/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/healthy-gut-bugs-qa-session-1-improve-your-microbiota/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/healthy-gut-bugs-qa-session-2-improve-your-microbiota/
Hi Cris,
Wow! This book is full of information, but at first glance, it is very overwhelming and confusing. there are so many “if”s to each instruction that it’s hard to follow any process in a straight line. My first reaction is, I am sure this book can help me, but the more I read it, the more stressed I become that it’s too complicated for someone to help me with the protocols since I can’t prepare them myself. Any tips you can offer about simplifying the process for the oregano protocol? I’m excited about the protocol’s potential to heal my periodontal disease as well. -Herb
I completely understand that holistic healing can feel overwhelming due to the multitude of factors involved. My suggestion is to start with one chapter at a time. If you’re specifically interested in Jini’s Oregano protocol at this time, you can skip to Chapter 2, page 161. Taking it step by step can make the process more manageable.
Your approach may vary depending on your tolerance. Many people start with lower amounts or reduced frequency and then gradually increase over time. For example, they may start with half the dosage of wild oregano oil (3-5 drops, 3 times a day on an empty stomach) and gradually increase, or begin by taking it once or twice per day to establish tolerance and then increase to the full frequency and dosage (10 drops, 3 times a day on an empty stomach). Let your intuition guide you on how to start.
Regards,
Thank you, Cris. I did read in the book that there are Oregano capsules you can buy; each capsule contains five drops. Is that correct? Would this then mean that, if I wanted to start cycling Natren and Oregano throughout the day that I could do the whole thing through pills? That would be easiest for me given my lack of eyesight. I know I couldn’t use the capsules for my Periodontal disease, but frankly, my gut is of much more concern right now. I feel like, if I can get my gut back in balance, my gas and bloating problems would probably go away.
Cris, I tend more toward diarrhea than constipation. I guess this means I’d have to use the powdered Natren rather than the capsule which is more for constipation, correct? I’m sure you must be sick of hearing from me, so I’ll try to back off a bit. 🙂
Herb, you are correct. Jini suggests sticking to powders and liquids only if you tend towards diarrhea. Once this is resolved, then capsules for Oregano and Natren probiotics are fine. And don’t worry, I don’t mind at all. Feel free to reach out anytime!
Hi Cris. It’s Herb again. For a 30 ML bottle of the wild oregano oil, how many total drops is that. I understand the goal is to get to 30 drops per day, so how many drops are in the 30 ML bottle? If I can get my digestion back on track, I’ll be a much happier person than I already am. 🙂
Hi Herb,
There are approximately 600 drops in a 30 ml bottle of the Joy of the Mountains brand of oregano. If you aim to take 30 drops per day, this bottle would last you around 20 days. I hope this helps with your goal of getting your digestion back on track! Also, the key to Jini’s Antiphathogen protocol combines Wild Oregano Oil and Probiotics. So It’s critical to cycle the two to get rid of the bad gut flora while repopulating the gut with probiotics.
Best regards,
Thank you, Cris. So essentially, you buy three 30 ML bottles to make a two-month supply. As for the Natren probiotics, am I correct that it would be the three-pack that I would buy in powder form since I tend more toward diarrhea? Is the recommended cycle three times per day like it is for the Oregano? If so, how long would the largest three-pack of Natren last? I am trying to buy things in the right amount from the start to get this right.
Hi Cris. Just a few more question and I’ll be ready to order…For the Natren probiotics, how long does each order of the three-pack powder last, assuming three times a day? I want to buy the right amount of Oregano and probiotics to make the cycle work. Should the probiotic be taken on an empty stomach like the Oregano? Also, is there any established amount of time in which I should feel some improvement, or is that unique to each person’s body?
Hello. May I please ask why my questions have disappeared from this blog twice? I am blind and need a bit extra help to get this right. I already know how far a 30 ML bottle of Oregano oil goes. I know I need to order the three-pack powder of Natren probiotics, but I don’t know how far one order goes. If I am already going to have to find a sighted person to help me with this, I want to make sure I at least have the right amount of everything in-hand. If you are not allowed to answer this question, will you please let me know here so I don’t try to keep reposting this? Thank you kindly. -Herb
My sincere apologies. This time, I saw that the comment is just awaiting moderation. Please accept my apology for the misunderstanding and delete these redundant ones if you will. And most importantly, thank you for being so helpful. -Herb
Hi Herb, sorry for the trouble. When experiencing diarrhea (3+ bowel movements daily), taking probiotics in powder form is generally considered the best option. You can get started with the Healthy System Tripack (I’ve linked the product below) as it contains the 3 recommended strains. You just have to select whether you want dairy free or dairy-based, but this tripack contains 30 servings per strains.
Natren Healthy System Tripacks: https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/products/natren-healthy-start-system-tripack
Natren Probiotics are also available in individual bottles in 3 oz (approx 85 servings) and 4.5 oz (approx 125 servings).
If your irritable bowel disease (IBD) is in a very active state, or you are highly sensitive to probiotics, then start out with small amounts and very gradually build the dose up (a pinch of 1/2 tsp).
All powdered probiotics must be taken on an empty stomach 20 minutes before food, or 2 hours after food, and at least 2 hours away from Oregano oil (before and after).
Some people take the Oregano oil 3 times a day during the day, and then Probiotics as the last supplement at night before bed. You might have to experiment and find a supplement schedule and dosage that is doable for you and your unique body.
You can also refer to this links below on guide for scheduling your supplements and dosage:
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/probiotic-cheat-sheet/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/i-want-to-take-probiotics-where-do-i-start/
https://blog.listentoyourgut.com/confusing-supplement-schedule-4-simplifying-tips/
The provided links can assist you in establishing your supplement regimen. Should you require further assistance, please feel free to comment here, email us at service@listentoyourgut.com, or call our customer service hotline at 888-866-7745.
Regards,
Hi Cris. Thank you for being so patient and helpful with me. I just placed my order for the oregano and probiotics so I can do the daily cycle. I can’t wait to get started.
Hey Herb, you’re welcome! I’m really glad I could help. If you need any more assistance, our team will be happy to help.