Find out what’s wrong with using enteric-coated capsules for probiotics.

And why the culturing substrate (intrinsic supernatant) is so important to the functioning of the bacteria inside your body, and directly benefits your digestion.

Learn about competitive exclusion; the nature of bacteria is mutual antagonism – they produce compounds to compete with any other bacteria in their environment. This environment could be a pill, a bottle, or your gut.

Did you know that if you culture your own yogurt – using a powerful starter culture like Natren’s – that yoghurt will contain about 100 million c.f.u per serving? By comparison, Natren’s Healthy Trinity contains 30 billion c.f.u. per dose. Join us for this talk to discover why we need so much more beneficial bacteria today then 50 or 60 years ago.

Or listen/download the audio of this session:

In this week’s session, Natasha Trenev and I answer questions from Nellie, Brooke, Patsy, Edie, Chris, Desiree, Sarah, Wendy, Terry and Robert. You can either watch the video, or listen/download the audio – it’s great drive-home material!

If you have any further questions, just post them below in the Comments section.

Healthy Gut Bugs Q&A – Session 2 – Improve Your Microbiota

11 thoughts on “Healthy Gut Bugs Q&A – Session 2 – Improve Your Microbiota

  • Great session. Natren was a major player in giving me my life back after severe gut damage caused by antibiotics. I went from barely able to tolerate 1/16 tsp of their Life Start every other day and gradually increased over 2 years to 12 Healthy trinity twice per day. That took me from bed ridden, incapacitated, and on TPN to 75% back to normal to where I could start the Gerson Therapy. I still needed more to keep improving but it was expensive and annoying to take so many capsules. I contacted Natren multiple times via email with questions but couldn’t get a response from them and their phone sales reps were most unhelpful. So I moved onto other probiotics – currently on VSL#3 Double Strength (by prescription) at 2 packets per day and am back to 90% most days.

    Thanks for providing these informational sessions.

  • Hi Jini, I am really enjoying listening to all of these sessions….so thank you again! I would love to hear if you have an opinion about the following: what would be the factors that would tell you to treat some with probiotics only vs with a probiotic and antimicrobial regimen (such as your wild oregano protocol ) ?

    This is one of the more interesting things to me after 18 yrs of practice. Sometimes a client with crohns heals with great diet, soothing herbs and probiotics. While someone with ibs (just as an example of something much less severe) may have almost no impact from that and may respond well to antimicrobial treatment in conjunction with the above.

    1. Hmmm… that’s a very interesting question Debbie! Although I would expect no less of you 🙂

      To be honest, I think that even someone who ‘appears’ to be healed (esp. with Crohn’s or colitis) would benefit from at least 2-4 weeks of my wild oregano (or olive leaf) protocol – combined WITH the high dose oral probiotics. Rectal probiotic retention enema is optional, but highly beneficial.

      Remember there is a huge difference between symptom-free and thriving!

      The only exception would be someone with moderate to severe bleeding. In that case I would use just the elemental diet first, with my herbal Healing Implant Enema, to stop the bleeding and get things stabilized. THEN I would start the antimicrobial + probiotics.

      Also note that when we first tested Jini’s Wild Oregano Oil Protocol with my readers, those who used ONLY wild oregano did NOT get the same great results as those who used wild oregano during the day and high dose Natren probiotics at night. So the combination/synergy of the two is what really helped people heal.

  • Hi Michelle, Thank you for your kind words regarding Natren products and congratulations on your continued health improvements. I’m sorry, however, that you had difficulty getting an email response from us here at Natren. If you have any further questions, please send Susan an email at and she will be happy to assist. I’ll be looking into why you had difficulty hearing from us. Thank you again, Lauren, Natren Customer Service

  • I really appreciate all the knowledge you two bring to this discussion. I have a bit of a quandary. I understand the addition of naturally fermented foods are a great benefit to a healthy and healing diet. The bacteria L. plantarum is prominently used in vegetable fermentation. But it is not one of your recommended ones to supplement, as you state it grows quickly and can tend to out compete the other quality strains Natren promotes. Where do you stand on balancing out the possible benefits and negatives of introducing L. plantarum into my journey to a healthier gut.

    1. That’s a really good question Mark! I think we’d better tag Natasha for this one… I know she’s travelling in Serbia right now though, so might take a while…


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